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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby skatingtripods » Mon May 14, 2012 10:52 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
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You mean Nerds?


Sure, guy who reads history books for fun.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby Am I Here Again? » Mon May 14, 2012 10:54 pm

Have the gameday "field" on my screen and it cracks me up every time I look at their interpretation of the playing field. The stands at Target field have so few fans you could count them all in less than half an inning.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby bookelly » Mon May 14, 2012 10:55 pm

:nanner: :dingle: Nice W!
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Mon May 14, 2012 10:56 pm

:dingle:


good comeback win after they tried to give it away.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby Am I Here Again? » Mon May 14, 2012 10:56 pm

Perez had a much less exciting close to this game than his usual style. So glad since I'm steamed enough about how the team almost blew the game.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby skatingtripods » Mon May 14, 2012 10:56 pm

Shouldn't be so happy about beating a AAA team, but they needed that one. Win tomorrow, come home with a 3-4 trip and get after it at home.

Big to pick up Pestano and Hagadone.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon May 14, 2012 10:59 pm

skatingtripods wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
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You mean Nerds?


Sure, guy who reads history books for fun.


And comic books.

It's ok to be a baseball nerd, embrace it.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby scrambler » Mon May 14, 2012 11:00 pm

As of right now....Kotchman .198 3 HR 11 rbi
Pujols .194 1 HR 12 rbi


As of right now we still signed the left handed hitting Pujols!! They're freaking identical
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby googleeph2 » Mon May 14, 2012 11:01 pm

Am I Here Again? wrote:One thing that ticks me off about baseball is that Hag stands to win this if CP can get the save. WHY should he (not personally, but the pitcher who is supposed to hold then doesn't) get credit for a win? He wouldn't be in position to win if he hadn't blow the damn thing to begin with!


Agree. Also always thought pitchers' errors should count in their ERA.

There's stuff on offense I wish were handled differently too. Another thread, another day.

good win!
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby scrambler » Mon May 14, 2012 11:09 pm

Am I Here Again? wrote:Perez had a much less exciting close to this game than his usual style. So glad since I'm steamed enough about how the team almost blew the game.


Perez has actually been perfect in 9 of his 16 games this year. I'm not sure what that means or what the average is for a closer...just looked it up is all. No hits or walks more than half of his appearances.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby skatingtripods » Tue May 15, 2012 1:40 am

scrambler wrote:Perez has actually been perfect in 9 of his 16 games this year. I'm not sure what that means or what the average is for a closer...just looked it up is all. No hits or walks more than half of his appearances.


He's also fought through some really shitty situations that his defense created.

Doesn't matter. Next time he blows a save, everyone will crucify him. Even though he's been terrific ever since the Opening Day meltdown.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby ChoccoIndians » Tue May 15, 2012 4:23 am

I think it is no coincidence that our improvement started when Chris Perez replaced Kerry Wood as closer.

Great save today.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby scrambler » Tue May 15, 2012 9:54 am

skatingtripods wrote:
scrambler wrote:Perez has actually been perfect in 9 of his 16 games this year. I'm not sure what that means or what the average is for a closer...just looked it up is all. No hits or walks more than half of his appearances.


He's also fought through some really shitty situations that his defense created.

Doesn't matter. Next time he blows a save, everyone will crucify him. Even though he's been terrific ever since the Opening Day meltdown.


He's been my biggest pleasant surprise this year. I thought he regressed a bit in 2011 from his great 2010. I was expecting more of the same this year but as you said, he's been consistently outstanding. Many clamor for Pestano to close but some can do it some can't. I look at Robertson...you could not touch him in the 8th this year...unhittable. Rivera gets hurt and he goes to closing and an unmitigated disaster so far. Still early for him. Perez is honest to a fault and I like that. I think I may have underestimated him. His reaction after the White sox blown tie game last week was perfect. It's major league hitters and he told all the reporters if they thought he wasn't going to give up another run all year they were crazy. His mindset is perfect for the job...he will blow some more this year, but not many.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby motherscratcher » Tue May 15, 2012 10:18 am

Am I Here Again? wrote:One thing that ticks me off about baseball is that Hag stands to win this if CP can get the save. WHY should he (not personally, but the pitcher who is supposed to hold then doesn't) get credit for a win? He wouldn't be in position to win if he hadn't blow the damn thing to begin with!


To this day I say it's a travesty when Mitch Williams was robbed of the 1993 NLCS MVP award. The guy had 2 saves AND 2 wins.

What more could you ask?
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby Prosecutor » Tue May 15, 2012 11:24 am

Am I Here Again? wrote:One thing that ticks me off about baseball is that Hag stands to win this if CP can get the save. WHY should he (not personally, but the pitcher who is supposed to hold then doesn't) get credit for a win? He wouldn't be in position to win if he hadn't blow the damn thing to begin with!


You can get unticked. Joe Smith got the win, not Hags. Hags got a blown save.

What is unfair, however, is that Vinnie got credit for a "hold" when he gave up two runs in 2/3 of an inning. I guess if you come in with a three-run lead and give up two runs you get a hold, even if the next guy gives up the third run.
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Re: Tribe vs. The Ghosts of Mauer and Morneau 5/14

Unread postby Am I Here Again? » Tue May 15, 2012 2:05 pm

Prosecutor wrote:
Am I Here Again? wrote:One thing that ticks me...


You can get unticked. Joe Smith got the win, not Hags. Hags got a blown save.....


Oops, old fart of a brain forgot Smith came in. Well then, I guess that's OK.

For those of you who think I'm slamming Perez, I'm not. It's just that some of his more memorable saves have been a bit exciting. Sometimes exciting isn't what I want when we get to Perez while hanging on to the lead by our fingernails. I liked the ninth inning of last night's game - have the lead at the middle of the ninth, then have Perez come in and throw a nice, simple, boring 1-2-3, 12-pitch save. Did my heart some good in more ways than one.
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