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Cardinal Pitcher Drunk, Possibly Stoned

Unread postby pup » Fri May 04, 2007 1:05 pm

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Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri May 04, 2007 1:18 pm

For me, it still doesn't lessen the sadness of the story. Now it comes out that it was preventable, but still. He may have been talking on a cell phone too, and anyone can lose their focus while doing that.
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Unread postby pup » Fri May 04, 2007 1:42 pm

I agree, the sadness is no less, but it is a story. Had I never driven a little impaired it might change that.

It never does, but if one person thinks of him the next time they are about to drive drunk, the story is worth spreading.
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Unread postby mswerb » Fri May 04, 2007 9:39 pm

ESPNews reported that the Cardinals have banned alcohol from the clubhouse. A little too late.
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Unread postby Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! » Fri May 04, 2007 10:32 pm

it is sad but i dont feel sorry for drunks or stoners


ban me if you want


thats my view and it will never change

sad? yes

do i feel sorry? no
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Unread postby Dozen » Sat May 05, 2007 1:11 am

Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! wrote:it is sad but i dont feel sorry for drunks or stoners


ban me if you want


thats my view and it will never change

sad? yes

do i feel sorry? no


Well only one person will judge him and I doubt it will be you.......... god bless his friends and family. Hopefully someone learns from this like Pup said.
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Unread postby Mr. MacPhisto » Sat May 05, 2007 9:35 am

This news actually makes the tragedy sadder to me because it likely could have easily been prevented. Unfortunately, it's all too common on the road today, people being impaired and risking their own lives and others' in the process.

It doesn't lessen the loss either. Just makes me shake my head and ask "why?".
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat May 05, 2007 10:56 am

Personal responsibility.
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Unread postby leadpipe » Sat May 05, 2007 11:17 am

Exactly FUDU. If your daughter was in a disabled car on the freeway that this guy plowed into, I'd have an idea of how sypathetic one might feel.

These guys have very little responsibilty in their lives, especially growing up. Look how many of these coddled athletes have no insurance or expired licences. The reason is that these are things they have to take care of THEMSELVES.

Look, it's sad, and you could argue that the environment being the way it is enables the lack of responsibility, but man, how many guys in your life do you need to see die before you call a cab.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat May 05, 2007 12:02 pm

The focus is being put on the wrong thing here. A 29-year-old kid is dead. Regardless of how it happened or why it happened, it's sad. Any time a life is taken too soon, it is sad.

On the bright side, yes he made some bad choices, but he didn't hurt anybody else. Millions of people probably drive impaired every day, and the fact that he was on a cell phone was just as much to blame as the alcohol.

If anyone has seen the Mythbusters episode, they pretty much proved that driving on a cell phone impairs just as much as being over the legal limit. Every day someone gets behind somebody on a cell phone and says something to the effect of "of course, asshole on a cell phone" as they're driving 10 mph slower than you or making stupid lane changes.

Yes, the kid made some terrible decisions, and paid the ultimate price for them. Feel sorry for him or not, you have to feel bad for his girlfriend, friends, family, teammates, and the baseball community as a whole.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat May 05, 2007 1:59 pm

I am not trying to pretend it isn't sad, b/c it is, for a bout 5 seconds.

A life is a life.

However people in their position, money, some fame and nearly everything at their disposal makes it difficult to have much sympathy when their life ends in these ways.

What is the MLB average salary? What is his, I assume more? How can somebody who makes that much money not go that extra inch and find somebody to drive them around, even if not for the sake of saving a life and just for the sake of saving face and being the butt of a Jim Rome drunk bus joke.

Hell I bet if he called the owner of the Cardinals at 4am saying he is plastered and needs way home the owner would get him one, some way some how.

He had enough personal responsibility to get him where he was in life, a millionaire MLB pitcher, he should have had enough to get through a night of drinking.

I feel for his family b/c they probably weren't given a chance to prevent this that night.
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