08/21 - Indians @ Tigers - Salvage a game and head home

[skatingtripods]

Ubaldo's pitching scared now thanks to the bullshit warning. Couldn't back Betemit off the plate to set up a breaking ball. He's taken velocity off his fastball to control it better.

Gotta make your pitches, but this isn't entirely his fault.

[TribeinLA]

Get out of this jam or it's game. 2-0 I can live with. 4-0 and it's all over.

[TribeinLA]

Yep. Ubaldo is gonna pitch like a bitch now thanks to the umpiring. I hope if he does hit someone that Verlander is the first one outand the first one decked by Carmona.

[Kingpin74]

I hate to be that guy, but two blue chip pitching prospects should have netted more than this. I'm fine with taking some risk, but he may not have been the right guy to do it with. The warning signs were there before we even got him. Hell, we traded 1.5 seasons of Cliff Lee for a much lower price.

[FortheWin]

THIS IS ALL THE UMPIRES FAULT! IT MADE HIM PITCH SCARED!

[TribeinLA]

Fine.

PLUNK the next Tiger up. Let's get it on. Let's get some fire under this team.

[British_Pharaoh]

I hate Detroit so much.

[skatingtripods]

Yeah, time to hit Miguel.

[FortheWin]

Are there a bigger bunch of bitches than the Tigers?

[Kingpin74]

We might need to throw up a 10-4 on our cake schedule the next 2 weeks. 4.5 is a pretty tenuous number this late in the year.

[skatingtripods]

Ubaldo's done. He's fragile.

Going to have to blow apart the bullpen again today with no off day and a doubleheader on Tuesday.

[TribeinLA]

Ubaldo looks awful right now. I hope one of the releivers comes in and does us justice. Porcello changed this game. Fuck him.

[Bigfist]

Yeah....Ubaldo certainly not looking like an ace at all. And don't forget..it took some lobbying to change Ubaldo's previous Tiger start from three to zero earned runs. Really the only game he has looked acceptable.

[motherscratcher]

Fuck

Game set season

[bucknutz94]

do you leave him in now to work on stuff and save the pen?

[FortheWin]

We are still in this game!

[skatingtripods]

do you leave him in now to work on stuff and save the pen?

Have to.

Can't blow the pen up again.

[Dnthateonthepronk]

this one hurts. But there is still a lot of games left to be played especially with each other. Plus the Tigers have been notorious for late season collapses. Not out of it yet. Its just one game......but it sucks.

[TouchEmAllTime]

Ubaldo took the place of our first half Fausto.

[bucknutz94]

damn, the ball flies in that park.

[TribeinLA]

I just don't undertand it. We're at a disadvantage thanks in large part to a bullshit move by Detroit.

Ubaldo is out there losing confidence pitch by pitch.

We need to do something and send a message of our own or we are an Eric Wedge team of bitches.

[skatingtripods]

This has shades of the 2004 series against Minnesota in mid-August when the Indians got the deficit down to 1, got swept, and proceeded to lose 7 more in a row.

Corey Koskie hit a 2R HR off Rick White in the 10th inning of the series opener and it all went downhill from there.

[British_Pharaoh]

I never get tired of seeing mediocre players then flourish as soon as they leave our incompetent team of coaches and managers.

[NH Tribe Fan]

Get someone warming up, then have him throw at Avilla and break his non-stop catching streak.

[FortheWin]

This is Inexcusable and Embarrassing.

I really wish the pitcher hits.

[skatingtripods]

If the offense continues to be dormant, we might see a position player throw two innings or see two position players pitch.

[Kingpin74]

do you leave him in now to work on stuff and save the pen?

Have to.

Can't blow the pen up again.

4 games in about 44 hours starting tomorrow at 7:05.

[skatingtripods]

I get the snap judgement on Ubaldo because we expected help from him this year, but if they get him healthy and straightened out in the offseason, he can be a huge upgrade for the 2012 and even 2013 rotation.

Can't write this trade off completely based on 4 starts.

[Bigfist]

This has shades of the 2004 series against Minnesota in mid-August when the Indians got the deficit down to 1, got swept, and proceeded to lose 7 more in a row.

Corey Koskie hit a 2R HR off Rick White in the 10th inning of the series opener and it all went downhill from there.

Not quite right. The Indians actually took the first two games of that series to get within one game of the lead. Then they lost on a Sunday afternoon in the manner you describe. That was the first of nine losses in a row.

[skatingtripods]

This has shades of the 2004 series against Minnesota in mid-August when the Indians got the deficit down to 1, got swept, and proceeded to lose 7 more in a row.

Corey Koskie hit a 2R HR off Rick White in the 10th inning of the series opener and it all went downhill from there.

Not quite right. The Indians actually took the first two games of that series to get within one game of the lead. Then they lost on a Sunday afternoon in the manner you describe. That was the first of nine losses in a row.

You're right. My mistake.

I was at that Sunday game.

Don't know what I was thinking calling it the whole series.

[Watt]

there's our 1 run for the day
of course it comes when it doesnt matter

[Kingpin74]

I get the snap judgement on Ubaldo because we expected help from him this year, but if they get him healthy and straightened out in the offseason, he can be a huge upgrade for the 2012 and even 2013 rotation.

Can't write this trade off completely based on 4 starts.

Just hate paying such a premium price for someone who was quasi-damaged goods. Getting instant help was tempting, but we probably could have done much better dangling White and Pomeranz in the offseason.

[motherscratcher]

I get the snap judgement on Ubaldo because we expected help from him this year, but if they get him healthy and straightened out in the offseason, he can be a huge upgrade for the 2012 and even 2013 rotation.

Can't write this trade off completely based on 4 starts.

This. OMFG this x1000

[skatingtripods]

Just hate paying such a premium price for someone who was quasi-damaged goods. Getting instant help was tempting, but we probably could have done much better dangling White and Pomeranz in the offseason.

White's damaged goods too. Throwing a splitter, that finger will be a recurring issue.

But, yeah, I get your point, too.

Guy could turn it around. He's got incredible stuff. Just needs to command it.

[dazindiansfanuk]

You have to assume that they'll burn out Herrmann tonight.... send him to AAA for Judy tomorrow and then send Judy back for the spot starter on Tuesday.

I didn't need an excuse to start drinking, but i've got one.

At least Carlos owns Porcello..... 3rd HR off him in I think 11ABs.

[skatingtripods]

Another good swing from Donald.

Thank god we got to watch Valbuena twice in a big series.

[British_Pharaoh]

Hopefully they will hit Marson and Brantley will clear the bases.

[dazindiansfanuk]

Since Hannahan became a father: -

.455 (5-for-11)/.600/.545/1.145 in 6 games.

[skatingtripods]

Atta boy Lou.

Can't bring Jimenez back out if you get another run or two.

[British_Pharaoh]

About time we did some damage to this bum

Brantley needs to regain some April/May form and find a gap

[skatingtripods]

Since Hannahan became a father: -

.455 (5-for-11)/.600/.545/1.145 in 6 games.

Tumultuous pregnancy for his wife and him to deal with.

Always forget that guys have personal lives too. Big elephant in the room for him beginning around May, and that's when his production completely fell off.

[Am I Here Again?]

They gave us a warning? I understand the imps want to be proactive but that is BS. Ubaldo.is gonna get tossed for nothing. I can feel it.

"...I understand the chimps want to be proactive..."

There, fixed. You're welcome.

Hey! Donald just scored our second run! Ooo, we're coming back! I can feel it! Or not...

[British_Pharaoh]

Since Hannahan became a father: -

.455 (5-for-11)/.600/.545/1.145 in 6 games.

best split I have ever seen.
Post fatherhood numbers. Fantastic

[British_Pharaoh]

I knew it wasn't over :p

[skatingtripods]

Battling and signs of life.

Even if they don't come back and win, this is big for them.

[Watt]

Hit a HR now Choo!

[dazindiansfanuk]

Ooooh..... it's a ballgame again!

We spanked Porcello last time around too.

[skatingtripods]

Little bit of a panic move by Leyland here. Then again, he has a fresh bullpen and might as well use it.

[British_Pharaoh]

Rape that bullpen until they are red raw.

[dazindiansfanuk]

Little bit of a panic move by Leyland here. Then again, he has a fresh bullpen and might as well use it.

It's an almost playoff game like move.

With the way Below stifled us in that 14-inning game, let's hope the bats have learned a thing or two.