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Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:07 pm

Tonight's lineups:

Indians: CF Grady Sizemore (L), 2B Orlando Cabrera (R), SS Asdrubal Cabrera (S), 1B Carlos Santana (S), RF Shin-Soo Choo (L), LF Austin Kearns (R), C Lou Marson (R), 3B Jack Hannahan (L), RHP Carlos Carrasco (7-3, 3.87).

Giants: CF Andres Torres (S), 2B Emmanuel Burriss (S), 3B Pablo Sandoval (S), 1B Aubrey Huff (L), LF Pat Burrell (R), RF Aaron Rowand (R), SS Brandon Crawford (L), C Chris Stewart (R), LHP Jonathan Sanchez (4-5, 3.71).

Umpires: H Jerry Layne, 1B Bob Davidson, 2B Hunter Wendelsted, 3B Brian Knight. Laynce, crew chief.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:11 pm

over under on the amount of K's by Johnathan Sanchez tonight .......10


I have a bad feeling they wont be able to be patient and take the 5 to 6 walks and those will translate into K's.


Im going over
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby FortheWin » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:14 pm

I thought this was stats gamethread?
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby bac5665 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:16 pm

Where's Brantly?

This lineup is not exactly pleasant to look at.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby FortheWin » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:17 pm

bac5665 wrote:Where's Brantly?

This lineup is not exactly pleasant to look at.


Sore throwing arm
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:19 pm

Ah wouldnt be a Tribe game without Grady whiffing off. :fu:
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby bac5665 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:19 pm

FortheWin wrote:
bac5665 wrote:Where's Brantly?

This lineup is not exactly pleasant to look at.


Sore throwing arm


Shit. When did that happen?
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby swerb » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:19 pm

Bottom four in the lineup - Kearns, Marson, Hannahan, Carrasco.

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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby pup » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:20 pm

They could very easily be no hit on this roadie.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby FortheWin » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:20 pm

bac5665 wrote:
FortheWin wrote:
bac5665 wrote:Where's Brantly?

This lineup is not exactly pleasant to look at.


Sore throwing arm


Shit. When did that happen?


Probably 3 games ago
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby bac5665 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:23 pm

Good start! Go Santana!

That sucks about Brantly. I wonder how I missed that.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:23 pm

Yea Santana!
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:23 pm

:clap:
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:24 pm

My god Austin Kearns is batting 6th. wow......I mean good lord.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:25 pm

Nice start

Axeman starting to heat up.

Kearns at the plate now.... ugh!
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:25 pm

Hey he didnt swing at that crap!
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:26 pm

How many times does Kearns lean back away from fastballs right down the middle?!
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:27 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:How many times does Kearns lean back away from fastballs right down the middle?!



Often. He sucks. Holy shit he made contact! :cheers:

that was probably the hardest hit ball he's had all year. :hide:
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:30 pm

yep we need blake at 1st
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:31 pm

Good bunt, but played HORRIBLY regardless.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:31 pm

Atta boy Lou
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:33 pm

Symbolic47 wrote:Good bunt, but played HORRIBLY regardless.


Defense on left side of Diamond. Championship Quality.


Defense on right side of infield. Pee Wee Quality.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:34 pm

Carlos should drill Sandoval after that bullshit look.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:35 pm

Dnthateonthepronk wrote:
Symbolic47 wrote:Good bunt, but played HORRIBLY regardless.


Defense on left side of Diamond. Championship Quality.


Defense on right side of infield. Pee Wee Quality.



You could see Santana's inexperience at 1st on that one. That bunt was all the pitcher, but Carrasco didn't field it cleanly anyway, so its a moot point.
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Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:37 pm

Just shut your mouth and play the game Sandoval. He didnt try to hit you. Moron.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:40 pm

Just make the DH a universal thing. Jesus that was pathetic ::doh::
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:40 pm

I hate seeing pitchers swing the bat.... it's just pathetic.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:42 pm

Yea screw the NL. Pitchers hitting is so weak. 3 auto outs a game. Boring.
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Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:44 pm

Anybody remember when Pat Burrel actually used to be a threat?
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Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:44 pm

Symbolic47 wrote:Anybody remember when Pat Burrel actually used to be a threat?



nope....wait wasnt it his rookie year.....then nothing
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby statmasta » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:45 pm

I honestly never thought Carlos Carrasco would figure it out. I was never much of a fan of his. I thought he'd be sort of a bust. I figured he'd hang around the bigs for a few years, but as a mid-4's ERA back end guy.

But my goodness....he really has figured it out. He is dynamite. He can throw any pitch for a strike at any time. His control of his slider is unbelievable. He can throw for it a strike whenever he wants, and he puts it in the dirt when he wants a K. I can't remember the last time I saw him hang a slider. He's very impressive. I never envisioned him pitching like this.

(now watch him give up 6 runs in the 3rd inning....Sorry!)
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:46 pm

Little CC continues to dominate. Man hes just been awesome the past month or so. His last 4 or 5 starts have been brilliant.
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Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:46 pm

did not like the non-chalant catch by carlos
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Unread postby statmasta » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:48 pm

Dnthateonthepronk wrote:did not like the non-chalant catch by carlos

I'm sorry that you can't handle how cool he is.
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Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:48 pm

if you were going to put a swing like that on a ball Grady, then why even swing? you would be sitting at 2-0 right now
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby statmasta » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:49 pm

Dnthateonthepronk wrote:if you were going to put a swing like that on a ball Grady, then why even swing? you would be sitting at 2-0 right now

Grady is just a dumb hitter. He's becoming dumber the older he gets.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:49 pm

statmasta wrote:
Dnthateonthepronk wrote:did not like the non-chalant catch by carlos

I'm sorry that you can't handle how cool he is.


I cant handle how cool HE thinks he is ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby FortheWin » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:51 pm

If Fausto does go to the bullpen, after his bad start on Sunday (It's inevitable), Who is the Ace
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby statmasta » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:51 pm

statmasta wrote:I honestly never thought Carlos Carrasco would figure it out. I was never much of a fan of his. I thought he'd be sort of a bust. I figured he'd hang around the bigs for a few years, but as a mid-4's ERA back end guy.

But my goodness....he really has figured it out. He is dynamite. He can throw any pitch for a strike at any time. His control of his slider is unbelievable. He can throw for it a strike whenever he wants, and he puts it in the dirt when he wants a K. I can't remember the last time I saw him hang a slider. He's very impressive. I never envisioned him pitching like this.

(now watch him give up 6 runs in the 3rd inning....Sorry!)

Also, the development of his 2-seam fastball has been fantastic. Did he just add that this year? I don't remember that when he first came up or even last year. He just had a 4-seamer that got crushed.

That 2-seamer is a great pitch, though.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:52 pm

Yea Grady is pretty pathetic these days. He can kiss that fat contract goodbye. He's just not very good anymore, especially since he lost his speed.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:54 pm

statmasta wrote:
statmasta wrote:I honestly never thought Carlos Carrasco would figure it out. I was never much of a fan of his. I thought he'd be sort of a bust. I figured he'd hang around the bigs for a few years, but as a mid-4's ERA back end guy.

But my goodness....he really has figured it out. He is dynamite. He can throw any pitch for a strike at any time. His control of his slider is unbelievable. He can throw for it a strike whenever he wants, and he puts it in the dirt when he wants a K. I can't remember the last time I saw him hang a slider. He's very impressive. I never envisioned him pitching like this.

(now watch him give up 6 runs in the 3rd inning....Sorry!)

Also, the development of his 2-seam fastball has been fantastic. Did he just add that this year? I don't remember that when he first came up or even last year. He just had a 4-seamer that got crushed.

That 2-seamer is a great pitch, though.



what I always liked about him was that when he did miss he always seemed to miss down. His pitches have a natural downward movement which can only help him.
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Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:54 pm

statmasta wrote:
statmasta wrote:I honestly never thought Carlos Carrasco would figure it out. I was never much of a fan of his. I thought he'd be sort of a bust. I figured he'd hang around the bigs for a few years, but as a mid-4's ERA back end guy.

But my goodness....he really has figured it out. He is dynamite. He can throw any pitch for a strike at any time. His control of his slider is unbelievable. He can throw for it a strike whenever he wants, and he puts it in the dirt when he wants a K. I can't remember the last time I saw him hang a slider. He's very impressive. I never envisioned him pitching like this.

(now watch him give up 6 runs in the 3rd inning....Sorry!)

Also, the development of his 2-seam fastball has been fantastic. Did he just add that this year? I don't remember that when he first came up or even last year. He just had a 4-seamer that got crushed.

That 2-seamer is a great pitch, though.



Im pretty sure he's always had it. I remember his scouting report saying he was a 4 pitch pitcher, who struggled with command and composure.


Also Masterson is our ACE right now. No question IMO.
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Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:55 pm

30 pitches through 3 for little CC. And not one ball has been hit hard.
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Unread postby andrew6586 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:56 pm

30 pitches through 3 innings for Carlos. Not a bad average. Hopefully he can keep this up the second time through the lineup.
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Unread postby FortheWin » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:56 pm

I haven't seen any problems with his composure but I don't watch. Has anyone seen any composure problems?
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby statmasta » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:57 pm

Dnthateonthepronk wrote:
statmasta wrote:
statmasta wrote:I honestly never thought Carlos Carrasco would figure it out. I was never much of a fan of his. I thought he'd be sort of a bust. I figured he'd hang around the bigs for a few years, but as a mid-4's ERA back end guy.

But my goodness....he really has figured it out. He is dynamite. He can throw any pitch for a strike at any time. His control of his slider is unbelievable. He can throw for it a strike whenever he wants, and he puts it in the dirt when he wants a K. I can't remember the last time I saw him hang a slider. He's very impressive. I never envisioned him pitching like this.

(now watch him give up 6 runs in the 3rd inning....Sorry!)

Also, the development of his 2-seam fastball has been fantastic. Did he just add that this year? I don't remember that when he first came up or even last year. He just had a 4-seamer that got crushed.

That 2-seamer is a great pitch, though.



what I always liked about him was that when he did miss he always seemed to miss down. His pitches have a natural downward movement which can only help him.

I see him miss up all the time, like every other at-bat. Sometimes every at-bat. But when he misses up, it's WAY WAY up. Well out of the strike zone and well away to lefties (in to righties).

He never misses right down the middle at the belt. Very impressive trait.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby statmasta » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:58 pm

Symbolic47 wrote:
statmasta wrote:
statmasta wrote:I honestly never thought Carlos Carrasco would figure it out. I was never much of a fan of his. I thought he'd be sort of a bust. I figured he'd hang around the bigs for a few years, but as a mid-4's ERA back end guy.

But my goodness....he really has figured it out. He is dynamite. He can throw any pitch for a strike at any time. His control of his slider is unbelievable. He can throw for it a strike whenever he wants, and he puts it in the dirt when he wants a K. I can't remember the last time I saw him hang a slider. He's very impressive. I never envisioned him pitching like this.

(now watch him give up 6 runs in the 3rd inning....Sorry!)

Also, the development of his 2-seam fastball has been fantastic. Did he just add that this year? I don't remember that when he first came up or even last year. He just had a 4-seamer that got crushed.

That 2-seamer is a great pitch, though.



Im pretty sure he's always had it. I remember his scouting report saying he was a 4 pitch pitcher, who struggled with command and composure.


Also Masterson is our ACE right now. No question IMO.

We don't have an ace. It's ace by committee. It was Masterson earlier, it was Tomlin for a time, but now it's Carrasco.
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Re: Indians Vs. Giants 6/24/11

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:59 pm

As a former player, I'll NEVER understand why a hitter takes a perfect pitch, much less two in a row.
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Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:01 pm

Ah fuck..... Choo's broken something.
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Be ok CHOO
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