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Re: 06/120/2011 Indians vs Rockies Purple is for Girls

Unread postby leadpipe » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:27 pm

It's been weeks since Carmona has hit the right side of home plate.

Period.

All you need to know. All the talk about turning it around, if he's worth the option, walking this hitter or that hitter.......all that shit is moot until he can do this. Cause if he's unable to the answer is NO to everything.

The guys trademark was that he could make guys uncomfortable with his movement. Now left-handers stroll up there without a care in the world. They either take the pitch a foot outside, or get great extension on the ball out over the plate. For them, there are no other options. This is why a guy, like Giambi, several years (and drugs) past his bat speed, can still jump out of his shoes over home plate and crush taters against him.

At the end of the day clubs are going up there KNOWING they can get there pitch. His lack of command has trivialized his "stuff." And yes, if there was a starting pitcher in the league that was an odds on favorite to walk the other teams 9 man, whomever it may be, it's him.

And this is not news. Command, or rather lack thereof has ben his problem for YEARS now. As a rule YEARS of KNOWING the issue and being unable to reckon with it.....can't see how in the wide world of sports he'll ever be consistently good. Pray for a hot month and move him to an all day sucker.
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Re: 06/120/2011 Indians vs Rockies Purple is for Girls

Unread postby Symbolic47 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:30 pm

Again- Fausto has no mental toughness. Weve seen time and time again. Starting with his historic meltdown in the closers role. How much longer can we keep trotting him out there in a division race? Hes giving us no chance to win every 5th game for 6 weeks. The homer he gave up to Roids was classic Carmona. Gets in trouble, folds, then throws meat. Sigh.
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Re: 06/120/2011 Indians vs Rockies Purple is for Girls

Unread postby scrambler » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:00 pm

Symbolic47 wrote:Again- Fausto has no mental toughness. Weve seen time and time again. Starting with his historic meltdown in the closers role. How much longer can we keep trotting him out there in a division race? Hes giving us no chance to win every 5th game for 6 weeks. The homer he gave up to Roids was classic Carmona. Gets in trouble, folds, then throws meat. Sigh.


I'm quite certain they won the last game he started in Detroit. I disagree, going from 3rd or 4th in Cy Young voting to pitching in rookie league ball in less than two years and coming back from that takes at least a minmial amount of mental toughness. I thought that was a great story last year. Yeah it appears he's headed back to his 2009 form this year and I find that sad. I refuse to give up just yet though.
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Re: 06/120/2011 Indians vs Rockies Purple is for Girls

Unread postby scrambler » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:03 pm

This copmplete angst over him walking Iannetta is pure stupidity. The guy has walked with great regularity his entire career. It is not solely due to the fact he hits 8th. It was also not the first two out walk in the history of baseball. Yes, Carmona did stink that inning overall.
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