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Astros to the AL?

Unread postby swerb » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:58 pm

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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby FortheWin » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:49 pm

It would probably be Milwaukee back to the AL
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Pressrunnr » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:34 pm

According to a highly ranked executive, one consideration that has been raised in ownership committee meetings is eliminating the divisions altogether, so that 15 AL and 15 NL teams would vie for five playoff spots within each league. Currently, Major League Baseball has six divisions.


Five at-large playoff spots. What this is all about, I'm pretty sure, is minimizing the chances of the Yankees or Red Sox not making the playoffs.
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Spin » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:37 pm

Stupid idea.

Just about everyone agrees we need less interleague play, not constant interleague play.

Aren't there more important things to worry about right now?
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Am I Here Again? » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:18 pm

I looks like moving more than one team from NL to AL. Tampa Bay becoming a NL team? Astros AND Rockies moving to the AL? What the heck, someone toss up all the names in the air and grab them on the way down? Besides, maybe Selig likes interleague play but I've had my fill of it. I'm one of those rare old birds who actually liked seeing a pitcher make a difference in his game. BTW, Cliff Lee got two hits today.
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Eckersley » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:16 am

Pressrunnr wrote:
According to a highly ranked executive, one consideration that has been raised in ownership committee meetings is eliminating the divisions altogether, so that 15 AL and 15 NL teams would vie for five playoff spots within each league. Currently, Major League Baseball has six divisions.


Five at-large playoff spots. What this is all about, I'm pretty sure, is minimizing the chances of the Yankees or Red Sox not making the playoffs.


I think you're spot on. As if the deck isn't already stacked enough in their favor.
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby swerb » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:20 am

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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Spin » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:01 pm

Why not divide the teams up like the NBA and NHL do? East and West, and smaller regional divisions. Eliminate the DH.

I need a break from homework, what the hell...

Northeast
Boston
NYY
NYM
Toronto
Baltimore
Phily
Washington

Central
Cleveland
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Atlanta
Florida
Tampa Bay
St Louis

Midwest
ChiSox
Cubs
KC
Minnesota
Texas
Milwaukee
Houston

Pacific
Seattle
Anaheim
Oakland
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Kingpin74 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:30 pm

I don't like interleague either but as long as it doesn't increase the number of overall games, I'd rather have 2-3 series per weekend for the whole season than the glut of games in June and July. The Astros are a random selection but whatever, they even out the division sizes and utilize the Texas market better. I'd rather have Milwaukee come back but then you'd be giving a brutal travel schedule to whichever current Central team that moves to the West.
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Kingpin74 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:37 pm

In fact, I think the Astros' prospective move to the AL is being negotiated by these guys:
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:40 pm

I guess I can live with it either way. There are ood and bad things about the idea.

As long as they keep the DH. I like the DH. Should be in both leagues.
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby swerb » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:11 am

Interesting ... from Buster Olney

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6651634

According to a highly ranked executive, one consideration that has been raised in ownership committee meetings is eliminating the divisions altogether, so that 15 AL and 15 NL teams would vie for five playoff spots within each league. Currently, Major League Baseball has six divisions.

A source who has been briefed on the specifics of the labor discussions says that the players' union has indicated that it is open to the idea of two 15-team leagues, but that the whole plan still hasn't been talked through or presented to the owners.

Sources say the talks are serious, and while one executive believes the odds of change are less than 50-50, another says this is the type of discussion that can gather momentum and become a reality.
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Spin » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:24 am

So it's all a bargaining chip in the negotiations...
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby fairvis » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:52 pm

Why hasn't there been any expansion/contraction talks?

I always felt that the 30-team MLB was always temporary before adding 2 teams (from the list of Vegas, Nashville, Portland, or Raleigh-Durham, emerging markets with strong fan support for AAA teams) to go to 32, and a full 16 teams per league. In that, you may have another realignment to 4-team pods in the divisions, which would cause more headaches...
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Jumbo » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:14 pm

fairvis wrote:Why hasn't there been any expansion/contraction talks?


Because there's no currently chance of successfully extorting a new stadium from public tax dollars.
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:18 pm

Pressrunnr wrote:
According to a highly ranked executive, one consideration that has been raised in ownership committee meetings is eliminating the divisions altogether, so that 15 AL and 15 NL teams would vie for five playoff spots within each league. Currently, Major League Baseball has six divisions.


Five at-large playoff spots. What this is all about, I'm pretty sure, is minimizing the chances of the Yankees or Red Sox not making the playoffs.


In my best Mike D'Amato voice: "Are you kiddin' me!?" In one bold stroke you've put a bullet in any meaningful September baseball - or any meaningful regular season baseball to begin with and cut another hole in the floor under the smaller markets. Which probably means in all likelihood you'll sooner rather than later have a full 16-team postseason complete with the newly rechristened Early Winter Classic. MLB, its faaaaaaaaaan-tastic.

Realignment and more interleague I can live with. Less so with another pair of postseason teams, but whatever. Killing the divisions? That's not a good sign at all.
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Am I Here Again? » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:07 pm

fairvis wrote:Why hasn't there been any expansion/contraction talks?

I always felt that the 30-team MLB was always temporary before adding 2 teams (from the list of Vegas, Nashville, Portland, or Raleigh-Durham, emerging markets with strong fan support for AAA teams) to go to 32, and a full 16 teams per league. In that, you may have another realignment to 4-team pods in the divisions, which would cause more headaches...

No expansion while the economy is contracting, IMO. And also IMO 4-team pods shouldn't cause more headaches. If I was Bud Selig (and thank God for it that I'm not!) I'd suggest keeping both leagues. The NL stands pat with its 16 teams. The two new teams go to the AL - let the cities duke it out. THEN each league is reshuffled into four divisions. The top team from each division goes into the playoffs (of course in my play NY or Bahstun are OUT BwaHaHa!). First round a five-game elimination; second round seven. Then the WS. Perhaps this way they won't be playing baseball in the snow in November.
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby Pressrunnr » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:09 pm

I rest my case: It's all about making sure the Red Sox and Yankees make the playoffs

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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – Boston Red Sox manager Terry Francona thinks a potential realignment plan has some merit.
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Re: Astros to the AL?

Unread postby googleeph2 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:34 pm

It would have merit if the leagues were reshuffled and separated into haves and have-nots.

Maybe reshuffle every year according to payroll.

They could still all play each other.

Selig has always said he is concerned about the smaller markets.

Won't happen, but how can he promote an upheaval and not address that?
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