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Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby skatingtripods » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:37 pm

Per just about everybody and their brother on Twitter, the Tribe will in fact promote Alex White to make his ML debut on Saturday.

I was already going, but this is a nice bonus.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby statmasta » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:39 pm

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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby peeker643 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:53 pm

Nice.

It does mean "The Indians Ruined Alex White by Bringing Him Up Too Soon" thread is more of a distinct possibility.

The creator of the thread will likely be someone who was demanding that these kids get their shot.

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I love it personally. If kid can pitch kid can pitch. If he's destroyed by the moment then he woulda never made it anyway.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby Eckersley » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:23 pm

peeker643 wrote:I love it personally. If kid can pitch kid can pitch. If he's destroyed by the moment then he woulda never made it anyway.


I buy that for the most part. I don't think they can hurt Alex by bringing him up now.

However, in a case of a high schooler like David Clyde or Todd Van Poppel, I think much damage can be done by throwing to high schoolers, then facing the best of the best. It didn't work out too well for those 2.

Best of luck Alex! I hope this is the beginning of a great Tribe career...at least until they're forced to trade you. :hide:
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby peeker643 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:03 pm

Eckersley wrote:
peeker643 wrote:I love it personally. If kid can pitch kid can pitch. If he's destroyed by the moment then he woulda never made it anyway.


However, in a case of a high schooler like David Clyde or Todd Van Poppel, I think much damage can be done by throwing to high schoolers, then facing the best of the best. It didn't work out too well for those 2.



Good point sir. There's a lot of growing up and maturing kids do between 17 and 22. You might well overwhelm a kid at 18.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby leadpipe » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:15 pm

Eckersley wrote:
peeker643 wrote:I love it personally. If kid can pitch kid can pitch. If he's destroyed by the moment then he woulda never made it anyway.


I buy that for the most part. I don't think they can hurt Alex by bringing him up now.

However, in a case of a high schooler like David Clyde or Todd Van Poppel, I think much damage can be done by throwing to high schoolers, then facing the best of the best. It didn't work out too well for those 2.

Best of luck Alex! I hope this is the beginning of a great Tribe career...at least until they're forced to trade you. :hide:


One got hurt (and it's likely he would have anyway - like a zillion other young pitchers) and one of them was overhyped and not nearly as good as advertised. If Todd Van Poppel would have come up at 24 he still would've had trouble getting outs. Coming up young wasn't the problem - command and a lack of secondary pitches was.

One of the biggest fallacies in baseball - actually it's so much the contrary its not funny. The Hall is littered with guys that big leagued it very young, as a matter of fact, it's pretty much a trait of all Hall of Famers.

CC and Colon were brought through pretty quickly. Know why the Tribe didn't ruin them? They could PLAY. But some'll tell ya how they ruined Sowers...

Kudos to the Tribe for bringing up, at this point, clearly the best option.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby bookelly » Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:28 pm

I think this signals a whole new attitude in the FO with Antonelli. Shapiro NEVER would have done this. Great move Chris.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:30 pm

Very surprised...... pleasantly so, though.

Gonna need to make a 40-man move to add him.

Jess Todd is probably the favourite for the chop although I guess they could just keep Herrmann up and DFA Germano.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby Jumbo » Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:37 pm

White did what he had to do to deserve the shot: dominate in AAA to start the season. Saturday's game will be a fun one to watch.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby Lokais » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:38 pm

I view this as another example that the FO expect the Tribe to contend this year.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby Eckersley » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:07 am

bookelly wrote:I think this signals a whole new attitude in the FO with Antonelli. Shapiro NEVER would have done this. Great move Chris.


+1

Perhaps Antonetti really isn't Shap's puppet as previously reported. 1 can hope.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby cappy1920 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:24 am

Great move. It's still the best way to fill the seats on Saturday. If Huff comes up? Not so much...


Eckersley wrote:
bookelly wrote:I think this signals a whole new attitude in the FO with Antonelli. Shapiro NEVER would have done this. Great move Chris.


+1

Perhaps Antonetti really isn't Shap's puppet as previously reported. 1 can hope.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby pup » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:58 am

Alex White will sell about 11 tickets.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby Dnthateonthepronk » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:43 am

pup wrote:Alex White will sell about 11 tickets.



must have a small family.


I like the move
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby pup » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:53 am

Oh, I like the move too.

Let's not act like it is going to pack the place because of it. Tickets still aren't sold in April.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby jb » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:34 pm

Stupid move to give up a prime year. They could have waited 32 days.

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Seriously, Carraco's elbow muct really be toast. Be shocked if this is a yo-yo move.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby Rat_Tail » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:10 pm

jb wrote:Stupid move to give up a prime year. They could have waited 32 days.

:hide:

Seriously, Carraco's elbow muct really be toast. Be shocked if this is a yo-yo move.


Doesn't White have to be up here for a certain amount of time for him to qualify as a Super 2?

Not sure how long they plan to have White up here, but if he's only filling in until Talbot/Carrasco come back he shouldn't qualify.
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby WiscTribeFan » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:22 pm

Rat_Tail wrote:
jb wrote:Stupid move to give up a prime year. They could have waited 32 days.

:hide:

Seriously, Carraco's elbow muct really be toast. Be shocked if this is a yo-yo move.


Doesn't White have to be up here for a certain amount of time for him to qualify as a Super 2?

Not sure how long they plan to have White up here, but if he's only filling in until Talbot/Carrasco come back he shouldn't qualify.


Yes. Pitching a game or two should not affect his status.

The real decision will be if he pitches well and if Carrasco needs an extended amount of time away, what do you do?
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby Kingpin74 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:58 pm

Seriously, Carraco's elbow muct really be toast. Be shocked if this is a yo-yo move.


If we're still around in July, we need to be in the market for a veteran starter, right?
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Re: Alex White, Come on Up

Unread postby Jumbo » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:13 pm

jb wrote:Stupid move to give up a prime year. They could have waited 32 days.

:hide:

Seriously, Carraco's elbow muct really be toast. Be shocked if this is a yo-yo move.


I don't think it makes a difference for free agency (in terms of "giving up" a year). Only for arbitration and how much he gets paid.

BTW, on Simmons' podcast a few days ago, Jonah Keri speculated that, although the next labor contract should be (relatively, compared to the NFL and NBA) peaceful negotiations, he expects the players to try to revise the free agency rules to change things so that teams can't just wait a few weeks before calling somebody up to delay free agency a year.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if White pitches well and both Carrasco and Talbot come back 100% healthy and effective.
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