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Unread postby No Mistake » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:24 am

Kind of out of the blue, but does anyone have any thoughts about the Indians possibly making trade for Coco like after this year? It would make sense, he is not hitting so well in Boston and I'm sure the Tribe would like to use him for left field to eliminate one of the platooning situations. He's a fan favorite...any thoughts?
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Coco Redux

Unread postby Steve Buffum » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:29 am

I can't say I'd object to getting him cheaply, but he's a pretty ordinary guy. I'd obviously prefer one of the in-house options making this a no-brainer "No," but there are worse left fielders out there (Langerhans, Tyner, Cruz, etc.).

I'd be more interested in getting a Tampa Bay outfielder, though.
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Unread postby consigliere » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:30 am

No chance, really.

Why would they want him back when the system is bursting at the seams with quality outfielders? By the end of this season, the Indians could very well have any combination of the likes of Shin-Soo Choo, Ben Francisco, Franklin Gutierrez, Ryan Goleski, Trevor Crowe, Brad Snyder and Brian Barton ready to contribute in the major leagues in 2008.

Personally, I am not a fan of Gutierrez and I'm starting to lose interest in Snyder......but barring a stepback or injuries, any of GOleski, Barton, Crowe, B-Fran and Choo should be ready by years end. And, Crowe is really a Crisp clone, but with more plate discipline.
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Unread postby Dozen » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:38 am

They wouldnt pay him before, they wont in the future.
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:48 am

Dozen wrote:They wouldnt pay him before, they wont in the future.

Thank God.
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Unread postby No Mistake » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:55 am

I agree with everything you guys said. I just wish we had that 1-2 punch of Grady and Coco, or something like it at least. Any thoughts on trading Jason Michaels anywhere throughout the season, too?
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Unread postby Dozen » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:01 am

No Mistake wrote:I agree with everything you guys said. I just wish we had that 1-2 punch of Grady and Coco, or something like it at least. Any thoughts on trading Jason Michaels anywhere throughout the season, too?


I still think trading Coco hurt this team in '06. They were either nieve (sp?) or over confident to think losing your #1 (Milwood) and lead-off hitter wouldnt hurt them. Im sure stats may make it close, but those were 2 solid clubhouse guys IMO.
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Unread postby rigs » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:52 am

Snyder is Jason Cooper II
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Unread postby leadpipe » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:53 am

If you are having trouble filling Coco Crisp's shoes you aren't close to winning anyway. Leadoff guy that didn't walk much, fast but a poor baserunners, poor centerfielder, among the worst arms in the game. He HAS to hit .300 to be decent, especially as a left fielder.
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Unread postby drewd » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:24 am

coco had no arm in the outfield,
sometimes he would just through the ball right into the ground!!!

We dont need another speed/defense outfielder like that.

we have crowe and sizemore...

they need to find a young 35+ power hitting outfielder!
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Unread postby Jumbo » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:59 am

Attended last night's RS game. Coco was positively awful at the plate. He's also now the target of all available Sox Fan abuse. (Especially since J.D. Drew has won the crowd, until the inevitable injury.)

Seriously, his numbers are Boonesque: .121/.171/.182. Struck out 8 times in 33 ABs. And he's looked seriously overmatched in the process.

They also have an heir apparent in Jacoby Ellsbury.

Coco Crisp's current trade value is approaching negative. You could get him, but at this point I'm not sure you'd even want to if you could.

(Noted, that Andy Marte has as yet done little to redeem himself...and neither, for that matter, has Kevin Kouzmanoff in San Diego.)
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Re: Coco Redux

Unread postby Mr. MacPhisto » Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:36 pm

Steve Buffum wrote:I'd be more interested in getting a Tampa Bay outfielder, though.


A package involving Chuck "Nils" Lofgren could get us Baldelli... maybe. If we threw in Clarence Clemons and Max Weinberg we might get a guaranteed deal.

Seriously, we'd have to give up Lofgren in all likelihood and they'd probably like a bully arm that reliable - maybe Betancourt. Even then they still would be hesitant. Those outfielders and Kazmir are their best sellable assets. They've moved Upton to 2B, have got Baldelli and Dukes splitting time at DH and CF, Crawford in LF, Young in RF, Iwamura at 3B, and Wigginton at 1B. Right now they really need all of them and are giving ABs to them all. It might take two top flight pitching prospects to get at any of them.
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