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by consigliere » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:41 pm
by pup » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:42 pm
by Dozen » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:17 pm
Pup wrote:So trade Byrd today. Use that cash to resign CC. Let's play ball.
by pup » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:20 pm
Umm who want him at that salary?
by Dozen » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:25 pm
by consigliere » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:29 pm
by Dozen » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:37 pm
You can't cut Byrd. This isn't the NFL where contracts are not guaranteed. Byrd's salary is on the books for $7.25M this year, even if we cut him
by leadpipe » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:09 pm
by pup » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:34 pm
Way too early to dump Byrd though. I am hardly his biggest fan, but you have to let the season play out. You start dumping guys now, before you even know how they will perform, and you are asking for trouble. What happens if you dump Byrd and then Miller and Carmona struggle? Or Cliff Lee is out longer than expected?
by Dozen » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:51 pm
That is right...you believe this team, with a marginal at best off season is ready to overtake the Sox and Tigers because of some made up theory that shows they should have won 88 games last year.
by furls » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:48 pm
by bookelly » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:45 pm
by ramllov » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:59 pm
by leadpipe » Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:23 pm
by consigliere » Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:34 pm
Lead Pipe wrote:Byrd will have little trade value. Enormous contract and he WAS a good pitcher. He's not young, back in the American league. If he is a third starter it's not a premier staff. Also, the big market teams that might overspend and can eat that contract aren't doing it in April or May. And, if for some godforsaken reason the guy pitches well for four months the Tribe will be so in the thick of things they won't deal him anyway.
by leadpipe » Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:49 pm
by consigliere » Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:39 am
by jfiling » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:15 pm
by consigliere » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:12 pm
by swerb » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:52 pm
by Steve Buffum » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:48 am
Swerb wrote:21012 - $18
by consigliere » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:58 pm
"His fastball was up to 97 (mph) and he throws it real easy from a three-quarters motion with easy stride. He just looks real confident and comfortable out there. Fastball and slider are the two main pitches. "His slider’s been anywhere from 85 (mph) to 89 and that’s just an out pitch—probably grades as a 65 (on the 20-80 scouting scale). His fastball’s been anywhere from 92 (mph) to 97 . . . The third pitch is the changeup and I’ve only seen a few of them. You could still see that’s the final weapon—he’s still trying to get consistent feel for it."But I thought they were all right. I thought (the changeup) was average now and has a chance to be slightly above average."He had good control and command—very, very poised. When I saw him he was throwing on a Saturday in front of a sold-out crowd against a big league lineup, so yeah, he was very composed. He just looked like a guy who could step in right now and give you a chance to win. I haven’t seen (Fausto) Carmona, but it’d be hard for me to believe that he’s any more ready than Miller."I just think Miller is a real special talent . . . great body . . . kind of like Kevin Brown. He’s durable, he’s got that fastball/slider combo—and it’s a heavy fastball. He’ll just kind of cruise along at 93-94, but when he needs it he can grab 97."I think he could be a No. 1 starter. I haven’t seen many guys better than him . . . maybe (Tigers righthander Jeremy) Bonderman. And Miller and Bonderman are similar. Bonderman’s a little bigger and stronger and he’s got a better changeup, but I think he’s going to be one of the best young pitchers in the game for a long time. I’d love to have him."
by pup » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:01 am
kind of like Kevin Brown. He’s durable
by docstank » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:12 am
by AdamMiller » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:24 am
by consigliere » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:26 am
by docstank » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:47 am
by pup » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:28 pm
You just know I was going to mention something Pup....but I let it slide as I knew you'd come to your senses
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