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by Mcreek » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:59 am
by swerb » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:04 am
by Guest » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:07 am
by dragonmeister » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:00 am
I'm getting tired of Andy's act to be honest
by jb » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:12 am
FightDr wrote:I'm getting tired of Andy's act to be honest and I think the refs are also.Boobie is a stud.
by swerb » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:16 am
JB wrote:FightDr wrote:I'm getting tired of Andy's act to be honest and I think the refs are also.Boobie is a stud.C;mon Doc.He's just doing what Laimebeer and Rodman did so well for years.He's an integral part of the effort.
by jb » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:29 am
Mcreek wrote:What type of player does Gibson become down the road? Sam Cassel, BJ Armstrong, Billups or Arenas? A combo guard that will be a big scorer and who can get to the line. With Gibson-Pavlovich and Shannon Brown to compliment Lebron Our Window should be open for the next 5 years.Thoughts?
by hermanfontenot » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:38 am
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:41 am
by jb » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:42 am
by jb » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:49 am
Mr. MacPhisto wrote:Like Swerb, I'm also high on Shannon Brown. He's fast, he can be another great defender. I'm not sure if he'll develop a three-point shot or not, though he did improve in that aspect during his last year at MSU. With some of Sasha's problems I think we may let him go via a sign-and-trade of some kind and use Brown in his stead.
by Mcreek » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:54 am
by swerb » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:01 am
by jb » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:06 am
Mcreek wrote:The price comparison may not be much of a stretch except that Boobie is stronger and more athletic not to mention just a two year player in college. Seems to me Price was more of a scoer at Georgia Tech than a pure PPG. Oddly enough both were secondrounders. I kinda pidgeonholed Gibson at first with the BJ Armstrong comparison but his abilty to get to the foul line in this series dispells any perception that Boobie is just a one dimensional spot up shooter.I really hate to give up on Sasha despite his propensty to make bone head plays at times like Drew Gooden. Pavlovich is just 24 yrs old and still has room for growth. He has mad major strides this year. Larry Hughes should be the odd man out of this group.
by FUDU » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:14 am
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:18 am
JB wrote:MC, I agree, but Hughes' contract makes him untradeable. He's an albatross around our necks like Marshall & D Jones. Ferry's FA signings have been horrific. I think we are stuck waiting these bums out. Much like Shapiro, he lackled faith in the kids and core and frittered away $ on marginal players when trusting in the kids. Willie Tavarez, Ryan Church and Luke Scott = Jason Michaels, Delucci and Nixon.Good thing Bron is Bron.
by FUDU » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:30 am
As for Brown, I agree that he needs to be brought along slowly right now, but he's a reason why Sasha needs to go. I see Gibson and Hughes starting together in the backcourt next year if Hughes is still here. Pavlovic just crowds things up more. He can back up LeBron, but how much do you want to pay a guy who'll play five minutes a game?
by Mcreek » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:38 am
by StewieG » Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:09 pm
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:50 pm
by hermanfontenot » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:06 pm
JB wrote:BJ Armstrong was a busta. A Poseur. A 1st round disappointment who was a marginal role player. He had 2 decent 14 PPG seasons in his career and then fizzzzzzzzle.Pax was a one dimentional spot up shooter who slept for 82 and they woke him up for big series. He was the yin to Bill Cartwright's yang in this regard. In Bulls Dynasty V 2.0 , this role was played by Steve Kerr. They were great at that role, but nothing special.Gibson is a true playa. This kid has big time potential to be an all star type hybrid PG who hits 18 a night and dishes.Not aimed at you Herm, but enough with the forced MJ / Bron analogies already. We don't have to filter every single thing through that lens.I think the Byron Scott / Magic analogy is more appropriate, but Gibson is smaller and has PG skills.HermanFontenot wrote:+=
by mswerb » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:01 pm
by pod2dawg » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:32 pm
StewieG wrote:The other day I wrote that this team is 3 pieces away.1. A true PG2. A true threat to score down low (Z and Gooden are shooters - they don't have great post moves)3. A shooter with ice in his veins.It's obvious now with the way Boobie has played in this series that he's the answer to #3. I'm not sold on him as a PG yet though. I'm sold on him as a player, I think he's a great shooter and is developing a slash ability as well. I'm just not sold yet on his PG skills. I think it's too easy to rattle him with traps and whatnot.Having said that, if a trade is there for a point guard who can run a team, be it Larry, Sasha, or someone else who gets traded, I do that. I think that's the biggest piece this team needs to be a very strong team.If a trade is there for someone like a Bibby, Kidd, or Andre Miller, you take it as long as it's not a completely retarded trade. If someone who is lesser known is there, like Jose Calderon or Speedy Claxton, and you think he's a good fit for the team, you make the trade.Then you're one piece away from being truly dominant.
by pod2dawg » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:42 pm
Mr. MacPhisto wrote: Of course, there's always the possibility of moving LeBron to PF and using him more in the low post. If used correctly, he can make up for a PF who's more like a SF and likes mid-range Js.
by SoulDawg74 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:30 am
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