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by FUDU » Mon May 28, 2007 12:13 am
by jb » Mon May 28, 2007 12:22 am
by KFletch » Mon May 28, 2007 9:01 am
by Mr. MacPhisto » Mon May 28, 2007 9:22 am
by rawdawgexpress » Mon May 28, 2007 10:02 am
by jb » Mon May 28, 2007 3:26 pm
rawdawgexpress wrote:JB:The Pistons are playing "bad" because they aren't a very good team.rawdawg:That's a bad take and I'm not gonna let u get away with it. ECF 5 years in a row. Beat Shaq and Kobe in the Finals. 4 excellent players and 2-3 good bench players. Billups is fucking clutch. World historical defense. Uhhh. Then what is a " very good" team?
by rawdawgexpress » Tue May 29, 2007 8:02 am
by Prosecutor » Tue May 29, 2007 9:19 am
by jb » Tue May 29, 2007 2:43 pm
Prosecutor wrote:The Pistons are a good team but their cracks are showing.
by jb » Tue May 29, 2007 2:50 pm
rawdawgexpress wrote:JB: "The Detroit team I'm watching is not a very good team in the spirit of how I judge Great Teams. They could so easily be down 3 - 0 if Bron played 80% up to his potential at a level of playoff intensity. "Rawdawg: I'm sorry, I thought that when you wrote "very good" you meant "very good", not "all-time great". My bad, I think. Yeah, 2000s Detroit is not as good as the 80s Celtics, Bad-boy Pistons and Lakers. However, in their prime these (03-05) Pistons are as good as the 90s Bulls with MJ. Yeah, I said it. You really sell short Prince and Hamilton by saying they have limited talent. Both are long, play great defense and can easily put up thirty on any night. And BTW: Steve Nash>Chauncey Billups>Tony Parker>Chris Paul>Deron Williams>Kirk Heinrich.And McDyess>>>GoodenBut I can't let this pass- "if Bron played 80% up to his potential at a level intensity." As Charlie Murphy would say about Rick James- "wrong" Dude is absolutely dominating in all facets this series. You can't expect him to hit fall away threes consistently like he did in game three. But just think about how he's absolutely shut down T. Prince on the defensive end and how offensively he commands a near triple team each time he has the ball. The man guarding Bron, Tayshaun Prince, is a perennial all NBA-defender. Yet he needs help by AT LEAST one additional player and often three others collapse on Lebron. I don't have to tell you that LeBron should be averaging 15 assists per game- but the other Cavs "shooting" limits those assists. We were in both games away and had great chances to win. You can't reasonably expect more than that. JB- He dominates but you just want Fall-Away threes and spectacular dunks. I'm telling you that NO ONE can do that every game.
by Steve Buffum » Tue May 29, 2007 4:57 pm
by FUDU » Tue May 29, 2007 5:01 pm
However, in their prime these (03-05) Pistons are as good as the 90s Bulls with MJ. Yeah, I said it.
by pup » Tue May 29, 2007 6:50 pm
The 90's Bulls had 2-3 players (in each of their 3 peats) that were/are better than these Piston's best player.
by FUDU » Tue May 29, 2007 7:10 pm
Take MJ away from those teams and they ahve ZERO players better than Billups/Rip/Sheed/Ben.Pippen? Please. He couldn't anything w/out Jordan.
by pup » Tue May 29, 2007 7:44 pm
by FUDU » Tue May 29, 2007 9:54 pm
Pup wrote:I was talking about individual players, outside of the team concept.
by jb » Wed May 30, 2007 6:31 am
FUDU wrote:However, in their prime these (03-05) Pistons are as good as the 90s Bulls with MJ. Yeah, I said it. JB did you tell him to say that?The 90's Bulls had 2-3 players (in each of their 3 peats) that were/are better than these Piston's best player. Just mentioning these Pistons in the same post as the 90's Bulls is insulting to the sport of basketball.
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