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Unread postby Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! » Mon May 21, 2007 11:27 pm

FUDU wrote:
Lebron walks and talks like hes god almighty.

Care to provide an example of when he does this?

I take it you had a mic planted on him at some point?

LeBron has never been that way to this day in his career.

Now you are reaching.

Relax, people agree Lebron should have taken the shot, but it wasn't the worst play ever, the shot he created for somebody else was a relatively nice play, a very open look.

If it went in we wouldn't even be discussing it most likely.



wath any game!!

soon as he makes a shot or does one good thing........

i laugh when they lose after he acts liek that
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Unread postby Dozen » Mon May 21, 2007 11:27 pm

Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! wrote:
Lead Pipe wrote:7. Just for you Wedge. Kerr with Robinson, Kerr with Jordan. Paxson with Jordan. Horry with Shaq & Kobe. Horry with Hakeem. All these guys made wide open shots to clinch a title. On the road, wide open from the shortest three point distance... Again, if you want to pick on Lebron for the entire game, I would entertain that argument, if you're going to keep complaining about the last play...



i wouldnt be complaining if this was the first or second time but its much more then 1 time.

The TNT crew agrees

I WIN

next argument?


OK Since the TNT crew agree's than it's Get_Wedge_Out_NOW 1 and everyone elso 0........for anyone who's scoring at home. (rofl)
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Unread postby FUDU » Mon May 21, 2007 11:27 pm

The TNT crew agrees


That pretty much says it all about Get Wedge Out.
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Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Mon May 21, 2007 11:28 pm

Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! wrote:The TNT crew agrees

I WIN


Best Appeal To Authority Ever.

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Unread postby Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! » Mon May 21, 2007 11:29 pm

Lead Pipe wrote:Actually, the readers of this forum can tell by reading your posts that winning is something you rarely do. Now crying, now that's where you excel.



winning is something i rarely do??

LOL wth does that mean?

im just an angry fan cuz the cavs blew this game big time.

what dont i "win" at? LOL
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Unread postby FUDU » Mon May 21, 2007 11:29 pm

soon as he makes a shot or does one good thing....

What is "it" he does after making one good shot or doing something good?
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Unread postby Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! » Mon May 21, 2007 11:30 pm

ok well im out......


u guys have fun watching cleveland sports never win anyhting just like the pervious year sof your lives
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Unread postby Dozen » Mon May 21, 2007 11:30 pm

Lead Pipe wrote:Actually, the readers of this forum can tell by reading your posts that winning is something you rarely do. Now crying, now that's where you excel.


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Unread postby Dozen » Mon May 21, 2007 11:31 pm

Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! wrote:ok well im out......


u guys have fun watching cleveland sports never win anyhting just like the pervious year sof your lives


will do, what? you wont give us a rematch? :eek :shock:
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Unread postby FUDU » Mon May 21, 2007 11:32 pm

u guys have fun watching cleveland sports never win anyhting just like the pervious year sof your lives

Obviously you do the same thing, or are you suddenly claiming you didn't watch tonight's game?

:oops
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Unread postby StewieG » Mon May 21, 2007 11:33 pm

Yeah, because the TNT is the be-all, end-all of everything basketball.

I believe at the beginning of the playoffs there were posts about how the TNT crew is there as entertainment only. That their knowledge of basketball, at least from an analysts perspective, is shaky at best.
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Unread postby Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! » Mon May 21, 2007 11:33 pm

FUDU wrote:
u guys have fun watching cleveland sports never win anyhting just like the pervious year sof your lives

Obviously you do the same thing, or are you suddenly claiming you didn't watch tonight's game?

:oops


i said cleveland sports not the cavs.........
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Unread postby Dozen » Mon May 21, 2007 11:34 pm

Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! wrote:
FUDU wrote:
u guys have fun watching cleveland sports never win anyhting just like the pervious year sof your lives

Obviously you do the same thing, or are you suddenly claiming you didn't watch tonight's game?

:oops


i said cleveland sports not the cavs.........


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Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Mon May 21, 2007 11:34 pm

Get_Wedge_Out_NOW! wrote:u guys have fun watching cleveland sports never win anyhting just like the pervious year sof your lives


I don't know about you, but TCE - at least to this Cleveland sports fan - ended for all intents and purposes on the night of January 3, 2003 in Tempe, Arizona.
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Unread postby StewieG » Mon May 21, 2007 11:39 pm

Well thanks Wedge. I feel much better after taking out all my frustrations on you.
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Unread postby Dozen » Mon May 21, 2007 11:41 pm

StewieG wrote:Well thanks Wedge. I feel much better after taking out all my frustrations on you.


shhhhhhhhhhh, I think he finally passed out
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Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Mon May 21, 2007 11:45 pm

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StewieG wrote:Well thanks Wedge. I feel much better after taking out all my frustrations on you.


shhhhhhhhhhh, I think he finally passed out


Since he's out...

Any hopes that Lebron figures out the Pistons' D and gets over 20 points in game 2?
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Unread postby StewieG » Mon May 21, 2007 11:47 pm

I honestly think that depends on Brown. He has to figure out a way to make it so that they can't double team him immediately. Maybe some cuts to the hoop, maybe screens, I dunno. But I think he's going to have to learn to move without the ball.
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Unread postby Dozen » Mon May 21, 2007 11:55 pm

StewieG wrote:I honestly think that depends on Brown. He has to figure out a way to make it so that they can't double team him immediately. Maybe some cuts to the hoop, maybe screens, I dunno. But I think he's going to have to learn to move without the ball.


That and someone cosistantly able to scorch them from outside. But lets be realistic here, the chances on that happening consistantly over a 7 game series is highly unlikely. And thats exactly how Detroit is gonna play us the rest of the series..............it's that simple. I will say LBJ not getting to the line was a joke also.
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Unread postby consigliere » Tue May 22, 2007 12:01 am

Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:I don't know about you, but TCE - at least to this Cleveland sports fan - ended for all intents and purposes on the night of January 3, 2003 in Tempe, Arizona.


Nah.

The Buckeyes winning a NAtional Championship has no affect on TCE. The Bucks are in Columbus, not Cleveland.

Anyway, Lebron needs to be much more assertive on offense in Game 2. I could give TWO SHITS if he was an assist short of a triple double. Dude scored TEN POINTS. Which is like 18 or so below his regular season average. If he averages 10/10/9 the rest of this series, we are getting swept.

I don't care if we lost by 1 point or 20 points. It is a loss. The only ones who take anything positive away from a "3 point loss" is the fans. Gotta go out and win Game 2. Period. We go down 0-2, and this series will be on the brink of a laugher 4 or 5 gamer.

As the Cavs players always say, "Step yo game up.....Lebron."
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Unread postby Guest » Tue May 22, 2007 6:10 am

Finally something we agree on Tony.
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Unread postby jfiling » Tue May 22, 2007 8:24 am

"We always want to win the ball game, but we always say if we play as hard as we did tonight for 48 minutes, we're not satisfied, but we can look back and say we're OK with this loss."

So much for my blood and guts prediction, with LeBron taking every loss personally and beating every Pistons he can get his hands on.

I just don't think he has the killer instinct in him. It doesn't mean he can't lead a team to a championship, but I am positive it means he can't lead this year's Cavaliers to the promised land.
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Unread postby consigliere » Tue May 22, 2007 8:46 am

jfiling wrote:"We always want to win the ball game, but we always say if we play as hard as we did tonight for 48 minutes, we're not satisfied, but we can look back and say we're OK with this loss."


Ugh.

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Unread postby KFletch » Tue May 22, 2007 1:04 pm

Seriously, Lebron! Get mad. Get Even.

That is why we pay you the big bucks :mrgreen:
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Did LeBron panic?

Unread postby CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! » Tue May 22, 2007 1:26 pm

Everyone's talking about LeBron passing up on the final shot. The way I saw it, when he drove to the hoop and saw Rasheed coming at him, he panicked, pure and simple. Rasheed had 7 blocks already and seemed to be getting in the path of every shot. I understand that if Donyell hits the shot we're all hailing LeBron as the hero but the fact is I think it was less about giving it to Marshall for the game winner than fear of Rasheed blocking it. Regardless of whether or not the play was scripted for Donyell, LeBron should definitely have taken the shot, and I think he choked.

Still, I think the Cavs will win in 6.

(I apologize if anyone else posted this opinion already.)
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Unread postby hermanfontenot » Tue May 22, 2007 2:47 pm

The way I saw it, when he drove to the hoop and saw Rasheed coming at him, he panicked, pure and simple. Rasheed had 7 blocks already and seemed to be getting in the path of every shot. I understand that if Donyell hits the shot we're all hailing LeBron as the hero but the fact is I think it was less about giving it to Marshall for the game winner than fear of Rasheed blocking it. Regardless of whether or not the play was scripted for Donyell, LeBron should definitely have taken the shot, and I think he choked.


I really don't think it was a matter of "choking" or "fear" or "panic" on LBJ's part. I don't think LeBron ever had any thought of taking the inside bucket. His intention all along was to give the ball up to the shooter and go for the win.
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Unread postby leadpipe » Tue May 22, 2007 3:04 pm

I agree, Herman, and I really do think it was that simple.
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Unread postby FUDU » Tue May 22, 2007 4:37 pm

after thinking about the "play" all day I look at it this way.

There was a play/game plan determined during the time out.

It was either go for the win or try to just extend the game, seeing as we had no TO's and there was enough time left for Detroit to do something even if we did score 2 points the plan was most likely go for the win.

Which leads to two options: A) LeBron creating whatever he can and if the shot is there and LeBron is comfortable with it then the call is his. B) LeBron creates, and if there is nothing for him there but there is an outlet then it is LeBron's call as well.

LeBron simply made the call, probably all along going with the win scenario in the back of his mind due to the clock situation. Seeing as he hadn't got a call all night he most likely figured even if he did get a layup he wouldn't get a call with it or that the odds were 50/50 on a ref blowing the whistle and it only ties the game at best anyway.

It was not a bad play the way it turned out by any means b/c it was an WIDE open look. It is just a play that did not go down as a success and it is and will be way over analyzed for a long time, case in point the TNT bafoons talked about it for an hour last night, of course just repeating what they said ten minutes earlier for 60 minutes.
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Unread postby HoodooMan » Tue May 22, 2007 6:38 pm

it is and will be way over analyzed for a long time, case in point the TNT bafoons talked about it for an hour last night

This from the guy who thought about the play all day?

I thought it was pretty straight forward. They went for the win instead of the tie. Period. No one else is going to drive to the hoop to set up LBJ for the shot, so LBJ set up one of his teammates instead. Probably the best option we have for that shot too.

I had no problem with it whatsoever. My problem was with The Save Yourself for Overtime Plan employed by The Global Icon during the first 47.75 minutes of regulation. What a fucking joke. Hey TGI, even Dirk Nowitski was asking where you were last night. Scottie Pippen's Migraine thinks you're an embarassment & John Starks' '95 Game 7 jump shot was heard wondering aloud--where the fuck is he?
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Unread postby sandlot33 » Tue May 22, 2007 7:04 pm

I am not sure if you guys realize but Marshal was WIDE open, plain and simple, Lebron absolutely did the right thing

when you play on the road you always go for the win and not the tie

I do believe watching that game that Lebron will never have that killer instinct that Jordan had and its not even close...very sad cause I think he has more talent than Jordan at these points in their careers
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Unread postby FUDU » Tue May 22, 2007 8:25 pm

This from the guy who thought about the play all day?


The difference being the bafoons on TNT were talking about it as if it was the end of the end for the Cavaliers, as if they have nothing to take away from the game except that moment of disappointment.

Where as I, as already stated, am a bit disappointed (nature of being a fan) but not worried in the least as the TNT guys are. I see it as the Pistons kind of stole a game but in reality they were just holding serve in the first game of this two game home court they have. The Cavaliers have plenty positive to take from game 1, most of it being mental and having to do with confidence.

We pushed them around the entire first half and parts of the second, they never came close to doing that to us last night. They were simply more efficient in their execution and we missed too many open looks. To be honest the last play of the game last night should have never been the deciding factor.
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Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Tue May 22, 2007 9:24 pm

HoodooMan wrote:Hey TGI, even Dirk Nowitski was asking where you were last night.


Owie. Harsh, man. True, but still - harsh.
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