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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:07 pm

OldDawg wrote:5 picks in, and only one is a "what the heck are they thinking" pick. We all thought that would be Kahn.


Never fear, Washington just picked Vesely.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:08 pm

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One team Cleveland didn't pick Thompson for is the Pistons, sources say. They have other plans.

This isn't a trade.

Charlotte is going to grab Biyombo, Detroit Knight and we're stuck w/ the 10th best prospect in the draft coming in at #4.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby StewieG » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:08 pm

Let's see who gets picked with the #7. Still hoping for a trade...
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:09 pm

Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:
OldDawg wrote:5 picks in, and only one is a "what the heck are they thinking" pick. We all thought that would be Kahn.


Never fear, Washington just picked Vesely.


If you need a lock down defending wing that can hustle and dunk Vesley is a fine pick.

Not sure where you are going w/ that. Guy is athletic and has a lot of potential, especially on a team w/ prospects in the front court and at PG.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:09 pm

motherscratcher wrote:WTF is going on with Woj? Tweeted that Vessely was going fifth right before they took Vala. dude is getting nothing right.


Was just thinking the same. Looks like an idiot so far.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby Orenthal » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:10 pm

Not getting Kanter, eh, but going TT that pisses me off. Then again I don't know jackshit so feh.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby StewieG » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:10 pm

God damn it. No trade in the works, according to Jason Lloyd.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:10 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
One team Cleveland didn't pick Thompson for is the Pistons, sources say. They have other plans.

This isn't a trade.



I agree.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:11 pm

motherscratcher wrote:WTF is going on with Woj? Tweeted that Vessely was going fifth right before they took Vala. dude is getting nothing right.


Woj said the Wizards are taking him, just mucked up the number.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby OldDawg » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:11 pm

I woulda lived with Kanter, Vala, Vesely. Thompson, no. How could we screw up a dream scenario.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:11 pm

And Woj was driving the TT to Cleveland train all day, so I don't really know WTF you are talking about.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:12 pm

OldDawg wrote:I woulda lived with Kanter, Vala, Vesely. Thompson, no. How could we screw up a dream scenario.


If we were going to take a PF that can't score we should have at least taken Biyombo. This is a joke, no doubt.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby motherscratcher » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:13 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:WTF is going on with Woj? Tweeted that Vessely was going fifth right before they took Vala. dude is getting nothing right.


Woj said the Wizards are taking him, just mucked up the number.


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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby OldDawg » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:13 pm

We coulda easily traded down and still had TT.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:14 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:And Woj was driving the TT to Cleveland train all day, so I don't really know WTF you are talking about.


Probably his "Ctown has been shuffling all day to guarantee Vala and Irving"....

So he's driving lots of trains.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby andrew6586 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:16 pm

If the Cavs end up keep TT I will be super pissed. How the hell could they get this guy without knowing a destination for him? This is bull crap if they end up with him.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby JJN » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:16 pm

I don't remember who was talking (maybe on Russillo's show? or one of Givony's interviews) saying that TT could be as good defensively as Biyombo. Hollinger had him rated at #3. Umm, really grasping at straws here to not smash my laptop.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:17 pm

Man, Fraschilla looks like a petty little prick here on Biyombo.

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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby OldDawg » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:18 pm

Knight looks thrilled to be picked by Detroit. Not
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:20 pm

JJN wrote:I don't remember who was talking (maybe on Russillo's show? or one of Givony's interviews) saying that TT could be as good defensively as Biyombo. Hollinger had him rated at #3. Umm, really grasping at straws here to not smash my laptop.


Fran Fraschilla is the only international guy that doesn't love Biyombo, it almost seems personal.

Notice how good it was that you don't have to run plays for Vesely but that it was a problem for Bismack and he never mentioned that TT can't score either.

He's had an axe to grind for weeks.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:20 pm

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e0y2e3 wrote:And Woj was driving the TT to Cleveland train all day, so I don't really know WTF you are talking about.


Probably his "Ctown has been shuffling all day to guarantee Vala and Irving"....

So he's driving lots of trains.


That is the only hiccup and he has had every other pick well before anyone else. Just sayin'
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:22 pm

And to be clear, thus far in this draft we have pulled the unprofessional move of leaving the #1 pick in the dark until called on the podium and we have passed on higher upside prospects galore to grab a defensive four that can play now (AND ISN'T EVEN THE BEST DEFENSIVE FOUR).

Glad he interviewed well w/ Gilbert though, which was supposedly huge.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby StewieG » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:23 pm

Ugh. Still can't believe we fucked that up so bad.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:23 pm

Fair enough. It was only the 3-4 tweets re:TT and Vala and Cleveland.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby motherscratcher » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:25 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:And to be clear, thus far in this draft we have pulled the unprofessional move of leaving the #1 pick in the dark until called on the podium and we have passed on higher upside prospects galore to grab a defensive four that can play now (AND ISN'T EVEN THE BEST DEFENSIVE FOUR).

Glad he interviewed well w/ Gilbert though, which was supposedly huge.


Yup, it's pretty obvious now that TMLP is driving the bus with his left hand and his right hand is shoved squarely up Dunphy's ass.

In about an hour here I've lost just about any confidence in this organization.

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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby JCoz » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:25 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:And to be clear, thus far in this draft we have pulled the unprofessional move of leaving the #1 pick in the dark until called on the podium and we have passed on higher upside prospects galore to grab a defensive four that can play now (AND ISN'T EVEN THE BEST DEFENSIVE FOUR).

Glad he interviewed well w/ Gilbert though, which was supposedly huge.


Well DG did say it was getting interesting in the war room.

Aparently it mostly involved a few blindfolds, a few tails, a poster of a Donkey and a few bottles of the Quitness.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:26 pm

And Woj isn't the only person that said the Cavs were moving around to make sure they could get Vala.

This wreaks of Gilbert.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:27 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:And to be clear, thus far in this draft we have pulled the unprofessional move of leaving the #1 pick in the dark until called on the podium and we have passed on higher upside prospects galore to grab a defensive four that can play now (AND ISN'T EVEN THE BEST DEFENSIVE FOUR).

Glad he interviewed well w/ Gilbert though, which was supposedly huge.


Yup, it's pretty obvious now that TMLP is driving the bus with his left hand and his right hand is shoved squarely up Dunphy's ass.

In about an hour here I've lost just about any confidence in this organization.

Overreaction?


Meh. At least they went astronomically safe.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby GodHatesClevelandSport » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:27 pm

Are they really that worried about the Lithuanian dude's contract with the NBA heading into a labor war? Aside from the fact that this is a long-term fix the Cavs are looking at ...
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:29 pm

Man I would love to get back in this draft and get a sliding Kawhi.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby Anglefan » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:32 pm

Good to see that everyone on message boards are better informed than the Cavs front office. It's all very black and white with Cleveland fans, isn't it?
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:32 pm

Amazing that the Maloofs just forced a pick their FO and their coaches didn't want.
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Unread postby motherscratcher » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:33 pm

Anglefan wrote:Good to see that everyone on message boards are better informed than the Cavs front office. It's all very black and white with Cleveland fans, isn't it?


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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby GodHatesClevelandSport » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:33 pm

Anglefan wrote:Good to see that everyone on message boards are better informed than the Cavs front office. It's all very black and white with Cleveland fans, isn't it?


True. Completely different than any other team's message boards.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby motherscratcher » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:34 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Man I would love to get back in this draft and get a sliding Kawhi.


I would have been happier with him at 4 even. Any possible trades out there?
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Unread postby JJN » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:34 pm

Anglefan wrote:Good to see that everyone on message boards are better informed than the Cavs front office. It's all very black and white with Cleveland fans, isn't it?


Cavs fans didn't select a guy who can't shoot 50% from the line. Just sayin'.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby JJN » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:36 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:Man I would love to get back in this draft and get a sliding Kawhi.


I would have been happier with him at 4 even. Any possible trades out there?


Jazz and Houston.
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Unread postby JCoz » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:36 pm

Anglefan wrote:Good to see that everyone on message boards are better informed than the Cavs front office. It's all very black and white with Cleveland fans, isn't it?


Yes..... Cleveland fans. Because every other sports team's fanatics message board is much different from this one.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby leadpipe » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:37 pm

AAAAAAnnnnd this is why the Cavs......are the Cavs.

Pretty typical draft night. Poor value, unprofessionalism.....

Bright side - 364 full days before they fuck up next years lottery.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:37 pm

Mind the source, but worth tossing up here:

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Unread postby Orenthal » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:37 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:And Woj isn't the only person that said the Cavs were moving around to make sure they could get Vala.

This wreaks of Gilbert.


Amick had this pick in his mock. I'm just puzzled.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby StewieG » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:38 pm

It's true he may not be able to break 50% from the line. But at least he's undersized and can't score from the post or shoot. Fantastic pick.
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Unread postby leadpipe » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:39 pm

Anglefan wrote:Good to see that everyone on message boards are better informed than the Cavs front office. It's all very black and white with Cleveland fans, isn't it?


You been payin attention the last 40 years? From Geoff Crompton thru Lasagna, thru not knowing Dewey Wagner couldn't play the point....and on...and on....and on....
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:39 pm

Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:Mind the source, but worth tossing up here:

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He is backwards, the Spurs were trying to move up to take Jonas all day.

Glad you are now sourcing Skip Bayless to protect your Gilbert obsession though.

Woj, Ford and Amick mentioned that this could happen and then all backed off as the Cavs started trying to move around to make sure they got Vala no matter what.
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Unread postby StewieG » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:40 pm

But at least we'll suck hard again next year. We just won't have Valanciunas to look forward to the year after.
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Unread postby OldDawg » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:40 pm

StewieG wrote:It's true he may not be able to break 50% from the line. But at least he's undersized and can't score from the post or shoot. Fantastic pick.

Clearly the worst value pick in the draft. By a mile.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby GodHatesClevelandSport » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:40 pm

Hey, everyone, remember when they said this is the weakest draft in years??

Exhibit A: Tristan Thompson.

Who is the better choice there? Valanciunas was the only other choice IMHO.
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Unread postby Orenthal » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:41 pm

StewieG wrote:It's true he may not be able to break 50% from the line. But at least he's undersized and can't score from the post or shoot. Fantastic pick.


After Amick put him in his mock that was the first thing I read about TT. Gets to the line, horrible %, but can't post, can't shoot. Ugh.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:42 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Glad you are now sourcing Skip Bayless to protect your Gilbert obsession though.


Yes, its all about Gilbert and nothing to do with Grant seeing something in Thompson over the other guys. Get over yourself.
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Re: 2011 NBA Draft Official Thread

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:43 pm

If you are going to get a 50% FT shooter might as well have grabbed an athletic freak like Biyombo or Vesley.

If you are going ceiling might as well go Vala, Biyombo, Vesley, Kawhi

If you are trying to not eff up by picking a guy who is okay and will play now you toss all value and upside away and grab TT.

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