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by e0y2e3 » Wed May 18, 2011 8:16 pm
by Orenthal » Wed May 18, 2011 8:21 pm
by peeker643 » Wed May 18, 2011 8:29 pm
Orenthal wrote:^There is no hope with that... After you hit them with a mountain of rational thought their response is, "but did you see Williams in that Duke game?" or "Walker just got dat swag, that killer insinct." or "I'm a fucking retard that licks windows and has water in my skull, but I call radio shows dur dur."WHY THE FUCK THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND WILLIAMS HAS NO POSITION.
by daddywags » Wed May 18, 2011 8:32 pm
by e0y2e3 » Wed May 18, 2011 8:37 pm
by Orenthal » Wed May 18, 2011 11:39 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:FWIW: according to Broussard the front office loves Irving but Gilbert loves Williams. Said that just before he mentioned the Vesley thing that Russillo has also heard.Vesley's upside is AK47ish, FWIW.
by Orenthal » Thu May 19, 2011 10:49 am
by peeker643 » Thu May 19, 2011 10:54 am
by motherscratcher » Thu May 19, 2011 11:04 am
by Orenthal » Thu May 19, 2011 11:06 am
by Orenthal » Thu May 19, 2011 11:11 am
peeker643 wrote:If you draft a Euro this June they have to be staying overseas this coming season given the lockout, right? They can stay and play there while this shit here gets settled?I mean, is that a certainty for any and all of them under contract or whose Euro contracts expire this season?
by JJN » Thu May 19, 2011 3:40 pm
Orenthal wrote:There are a couple guys with contract issues, not the usual high first round names, that would be perfect canidates for stashing with our second round picks. Just doesn't seem feasible to have all 4 players come onto the roster, given there are still possible some young guys on the team you want to evaluate.That's that flexibility they are always talking about.Guy like this...http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Boj ... ovic-1104/
by Orenthal » Thu May 19, 2011 4:39 pm
by Orenthal » Thu May 19, 2011 6:27 pm
by OldDawg » Thu May 19, 2011 6:44 pm
motherscratcher wrote:Orenthal wrote:http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/05/18/consensus.mock.draft/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1Wait, is Inside Hoops saying that the Cavs are going to pick Irving and Knight? That's ridiculous, right?
1) Cleveland Cavaliers: Kyrie Irving (PG, Duke) - Every rebuilding team needs a real floor general. Probably the best prospect in the 2011 Draft.2) Minnesota Timberwolves: Derrick Williams (F, Arizona) - A scorer and rebounder who will probably be a small forward who plays occasional power forward in the NBA. Also might be worthy of being selected first overall.3) Utah Jazz (from NJ): Brandon Knight (PG, Kentucky) - Pretty good guard but NBA potential is uncertain.4) Cleveland Cavaliers (from LAC): Jonas Valanciunas (PF, Lithuania) - A raw project who is still in development.
by OldDawg » Thu May 19, 2011 7:05 pm
by StewieG » Thu May 19, 2011 7:12 pm
by e0y2e3 » Thu May 19, 2011 7:26 pm
by peeker643 » Thu May 19, 2011 8:22 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:Williams spent all day telling everyone that would listen that he is a SF, not a PF.Kanter looked good, more athletic than most expected.OJ went to an airport restroom and waited for three shoe taps.Feh to the rest.
by Orenthal » Thu May 19, 2011 8:24 pm
by e0y2e3 » Thu May 19, 2011 8:29 pm
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Thu May 19, 2011 9:01 pm
by e0y2e3 » Thu May 19, 2011 9:05 pm
by Triple-S » Thu May 19, 2011 9:08 pm
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.
by StewieG » Fri May 20, 2011 10:09 am
by e0y2e3 » Fri May 20, 2011 10:19 am
by StewieG » Fri May 20, 2011 10:23 am
by e0y2e3 » Fri May 20, 2011 10:56 am
by fundamentals » Fri May 20, 2011 11:17 am
e0y2e3 wrote:WIlliams ego is pretty insane. Quotes today range from him being the biggest star in the draft to him being a great LBJ replacement.I like swag as much as the next guy, so I'm not gonna judge, but when you have that much swag you better nail your GM interviews.
"I think I'm the No. 1 pick because I have more star quality I would think," the small forward said. "I'm just a bigger person. Just trying to fill in for a big star like LeBron like they're missing. That missing piece. I think that's me."
by OldDawg » Fri May 20, 2011 11:38 am
by StewieG » Fri May 20, 2011 2:23 pm
by Orenthal » Sun May 22, 2011 3:48 pm
by e0y2e3 » Sun May 22, 2011 4:43 pm
by rebelwithoutaclue » Sun May 22, 2011 7:10 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:I'm not listening to a link to Cowherd.
by Kingpin74 » Sun May 22, 2011 7:45 pm
by e0y2e3 » Sun May 22, 2011 8:49 pm
by daddywags » Sun May 22, 2011 8:55 pm
Kingpin74 wrote:Irving's a no-brainer but I'd be willing to pay a decent amount to move up to 2 for Williams. It would be awesome if he fell to 4 but I doubt it given how much Minnesota wants to trade. What would the price be to go from 4 to 2?
by e0y2e3 » Sun May 22, 2011 9:11 pm
by e0y2e3 » Sun May 22, 2011 9:15 pm
While this crop of prospects leaves a lot to be desired in terms of star power, seeing how the pecking order of international prospects unfolds might be the most interesting storyline of the draft.There are five international players - all 6-9 or taller - who are expected to be selected in the lottery a. How they rank in terms of NBA potential is one huge source of debate amongst talent evaluators, but how much is known about their situations off the court will ultimately decide where they're selected.While only one of them, Enes Kanter, was actually in Chicago, the rest were constantly being discussed.The main topic: Jonas Valanciunas of Lithuania. He is considered by most teams to be the most intriguing of the bunch. At 6-11, with a reported 7-6 wingspan and a Joakim Noah(notes)-type motor, he's the type of prospect NBA teams have a difficult time getting their hands on outside of the draft. He has repeatedly indicated his desire to move to the NBA and only the NBA, which separates him from the Ricky Rubios and Fran Vazquezes of the world.Seeing solid playing time for a BC Lietuvos Rytas team that made the top 16 of the Euroleague, and leading the competition in rebounding per minute, he's been seen by everyone. For him, it's his buyout, or lack thereof, that has teams worried.Rytas has taken a major step forward in resolving the buyout issue in recent days by hiring a European lawyer with significant experience in NBA buyout negotiations. According to sources with knowledge of the situation, Rytas will attempt to structure the buyout on a sliding scale depending on where he gets picked, and are willing to be flexible with Valanciunas on when he can leave the team in case of an NBA lockout, even giving him the opportunity to stay with the team until he signs his rookie contract.If his buyout situation will be resolved in a timely fashion, look for Valanciunas to be drafted somewhere between Nos. 3 and 8 overall. He's ahead of Enes Kanter on both Cleveland and Toronto's boards according to reports and has huge fans in Detroit's front office as well.Valanciunas has three more years on his contract after this current season, with no buyout option. His American agent Leon Rose of CAA has been negotiating with the team for the better part of the year Most of the dispute revolves around when the buyout will be paid. The team, which is in serious financial trouble, wants the money now, not when he joins the NBA. It's asking for a percentage of Valanciunas' rookie contract. An agreement could have already been reached some time ago but the team has sent mixed messages.Most expect a deal to be struck no more than a week before the draft. Valanciunas falling in the draft will only hurt Rytas' cause as not only will it lose significant respect from fans and constituents in basketball-crazy Lithuania, but it'll also hurt its chances of landing the next great young local prospect with NBA aspirations. Furthermore, being drafted lower results in a smaller contract.
by Orenthal » Sun May 22, 2011 11:04 pm
by e0y2e3 » Sun May 22, 2011 11:05 pm
by Orenthal » Sun May 22, 2011 11:10 pm
by e0y2e3 » Mon May 23, 2011 12:33 pm
by Orenthal » Mon May 23, 2011 12:41 pm
by e0y2e3 » Mon May 23, 2011 12:47 pm
by Orenthal » Mon May 23, 2011 12:57 pm
by e0y2e3 » Mon May 23, 2011 12:59 pm
by JJN » Mon May 23, 2011 2:45 pm
by ajunior148 » Mon May 23, 2011 3:31 pm
JJN wrote:Rudy Gay is probably a better player than anyone coming out in this draft. Its easy to forget because MEM went on the playoff run without him, but he was stupid good this season. 47%/40%/80% - 20pts/6reb/3ast/1.7st/1 block. And he isn't yet 25.
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Mon May 23, 2011 3:43 pm
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