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Caron Butler to Dallas reportedly official

Unread postby StewieG » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:02 pm

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RT @SpearsNBAYahoo: Wash trade of Butler, Haywood and Stevenson to Dallas for Howard, Gooden, Ross and Singleton official, source tells Y!
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Unread postby papacass » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:11 pm

Fixed the header.

Glad to see that Boston isn't getting the Butler/Jamo transformational uber-deal that they crave.

I'm curious to see whether this trade, if it is finalized, increases or decreases the chances of a Jamo deal. I still think right now that this means the Wiz will retain Jamo for at least the rest of the season.
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Re: Caron Butler to Dallas reportedly official

Unread postby jfiling » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:06 pm

This looks to cement the Lakers and the Mavs being in the Western Finals. Anyone else think we'd match up slightly better with the Mavs after this trade than the Lakers?
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Unread postby mattvan1 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:56 pm

jfiling wrote: Anyone else think we'd match up slightly better with the Mavs after this trade than the Lakers?


Who gives a shit? Could be the '95-'96 Bulls (if they were in the west) and it wouldn't matter. We have a 100% chance of winning the title.

I read it on a message board. Word. ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: Caron Butler to Dallas reportedly official

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:00 pm

Butler, Brendan Haywood, and our good buddy DeShawn Stevenson for Howard, another good buddy Drew Gooden, and a couple scrubs.

Haywood and Stevenson on the same floor with Dirk Nowtizki while being coached by Rick Carlisle. Ladies and gentlemen, your Jack Haley All-Star Team!
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:42 pm

Not gonna lie, this takes the Mavs from playoff noise maker to legit scary.

If they mesh and what not.
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Unread postby davemanddd » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:37 am

e0y2e3 wrote:Not gonna lie, this takes the Mavs from playoff noise maker to legit scary.

If they mesh and what not.


scary??? naw, just the mark of a very desperate team with a fading star looking to catch lightning in a bottle one last time before they fade to bolivia. will this deal get dallas to the western conference finals??? probably. will it bring them an nba title??? doubtful. their window of opportunity began to close when they flamed out in the first round against golden state a few years ago. i still thank gawd the cavs never did complete a trade for j-kidd as was rumored a few years back.
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Re: Caron Butler to Dallas reportedly official

Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:45 am

davemanddd wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:Not gonna lie, this takes the Mavs from playoff noise maker to legit scary.

If they mesh and what not.


scary??? naw, just the mark of a very desperate team with a fading star looking to catch lightning in a bottle one last time before they fade to bolivia. will this deal get dallas to the western conference finals??? probably. will it bring them an nba title??? doubtful. their window of opportunity began to close when they flamed out in the first round against golden state a few years ago. i still thank gawd the cavs never did complete a trade for j-kidd as was rumored a few years back.



They got 2 legit rotation players for a guy whose been underachieving the last couple of years. Haywood gives them extra size and tougness to bang against the soft Lakers. This definitely puts them into the top of the Western Conference class with the Lakers and Nuggets.
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Unread postby CharacterIV » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:50 am

Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:Butler, Brendan Haywood, and our good buddy DeShawn Stevenson for Howard, another good buddy Drew Gooden, and a couple scrubs.

Haywood and Stevenson on the same floor with Dirk Nowtizki while being coached by Rick Carlisle. Ladies and gentlemen, your Jack Haley All-Star Team!


Game 7 of the NBA finals, Dallas vs. Cavs, Cavs up 2, final seconds, last Dallas possession involves DeShawn Stevenson jacking it from 3, looking for a chance to do the "I can't feel my face" and LeBron throws it right back down his throat. Stevenson crumbles to the ground, LeBron stands over him like Muhammad Ali in the classic photo, mutters: "Who's overrated now, bitch?"

I would spontaneously orgasm to the point of dehydration.

Admittedly, DeShawn Stevenson taking the last shot of an NBA finals is a strategic impossibility, but dammit wouldn't it be fun if it played out that way?

Seriously, though, this trade makes Dallas a lot better. A lot. Howard's a proven malcontent and played his way down to almost the spare-part category, which is where the others are. Maybe not Gooden. Maybe. Their team got a lot tougher with Butler, and Haywood gives them a big to throw at the Lakers. I just wonder, like everyone else here, what it means about Jamison.
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Re: Caron Butler to Dallas reportedly official

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:53 am

e0y2e3 wrote:Not gonna lie, this takes the Mavs from playoff noise maker to legit scary.

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The trade elevated them from playoff noise maker to Most Likely To Be Kobe's Bitch In The WCF, but that's about it.
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Re: Caron Butler to Dallas reportedly official

Unread postby jordan kramer » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:54 am

this trade really doesn't scare me even a little bit. dirk has, is, and always will be soft as cottonelle, kidd is still old, butler for howard is almost a wash, heyward has always been an under-achiever, and deshawn stevenson? don't make me laugh
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Unread postby TouchEmAllTime » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:54 am

I'd still rather see LA/Utah or LA/Denver.
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Re: Caron Butler to Dallas reportedly official

Unread postby jordan kramer » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:55 am

e0y2e3 wrote:Not gonna lie, this takes the Mavs from playoff noise maker to legit scary.

If they mesh and what not.

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Unread postby ajunior148 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:01 am

rebelwithoutaclue wrote:They got 2 legit rotation players for a guy whose been underachieving the last couple of years. Haywood gives them extra size and tougness to bang against the soft Lakers. This definitely puts them into the top of the Western Conference class with the Lakers and Nuggets.


I still have them below LA and Denver (and probably Utah). Butler is a pretty good player, but I'm not sold on him being the difference maker they need. He's shooting 42% from the floor, which is very bad for a forward. It's bad for a guard, honestly.

This deal does make them tougher and gives them another solid big, but without making a significant upgrade at SG I don't see them as having a legit shot at the title this year.

I don't think Utah is as good as they are currently playing, but they can beat Dallas too I think.
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Re: Caron Butler to Dallas reportedly official

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:54 am

There star is declining? Dirk is sick right now, just sick. Between him and LBJ for who I want taking the last shot and it has been that way for a while.

The Mavs are legit and Kidd is the perfect point for the team they have put together. The current run doesn't have lot of years in it, but this team could be very good.

And Haywood is having a very good year, quietly in Washington.
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Unread postby noles1 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:27 am

Love this trade for the Mavs. Anyone dogging it is missing the boat on what the Mavs were before the trade.

They are "in the discussion" now, IMO.

I still think they are #3 in the West but the gap is much smaller. One injury to LA or Denver and I would hate to be facing that Dallas team if they can click at all.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:29 am

Utah could end up in the discussion as well, IMO.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:48 am

Dirk is this eras Larry Bird, only better.

Yeah I said it,

Deal.
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Unread postby mattvan1 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:28 pm

FUDU wrote:Dirk is this eras Larry Bird, only better.

Yeah I said it,

Deal.


Nice to see your myopia extends well beyond NFL QBs who can't deliver in the clutch. ;-) ;) :wink:
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Unread postby Orenthal » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:09 pm

Dirk>Bird...

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Unread postby Ea$t $ide » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:17 pm

FUDU wrote:Dirk is this eras Larry Bird, only better.

Yeah I said it,

Deal.


i don't remember bird ever getting posted up by the other team's point guard...

bird had the heart of a champion...


dirk has the heart of a david hasselhoff fan..
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Unread postby jordan kramer » Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:10 pm

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Re: Caron Butler to Dallas reportedly official

Unread postby FUDU » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:51 pm

I've been wanting to throw that out there for a while now, figured the timing was about right. ;-) ;) :wink:

I've always been a huge fan of Dirk.

Honestly Dirk's offensive game surpasses Bird's, no doubt about it, but Bird was too good a passer and actually tried on defense even if he wasn't good at it. Bird's competitive nature was also second to well maybe no one. Bird was one of those players that was easy to hate when he played, impossible to hate since.
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