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Re: NBA Greats Draft: tw, jfilling, buckeye due up

Unread postby metalhead9x9 » Sat May 30, 2009 12:11 am

Anybody gonna take James Naismith? I mean, that's kinda like taking God, ain't it? ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: tw, jfilling, buckeye due up

Unread postby twdelaney34 » Sat May 30, 2009 12:25 am

I suppose that makes it my turn. Clearly I am lacking in the middle. This got tended to get lost in the shuffle with the Dream, Ewing hitting their twilight and Shaq in his early years during this guy's peak. I will take the man who caught all those alley oops from Mugsy Bogues, Zo. Alonzo Mouring. Could was a 20 and 10 center with great D to reject 3+ shots a game. Not to mention battling back from kidney disease.

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1992-93 22 CHH NBA 78 78 33.9 7.3 14.3 .511 0.0 0.0 .000 6.3 8.1 .781 3.4 6.9 10.3 1.0 0.3 3.5 3.0 3.7 21.0
1993-94 23 CHH NBA 60 59 33.6 7.1 14.1 .505 0.0 0.0 .000 7.2 9.5 .762 3.0 7.2 10.2 1.4 0.5 3.1 3.3 3.5 21.5
1994-95 24 CHH NBA 77 77 38.2 7.4 14.3 .519 0.1 0.4 .324 6.4 8.4 .761 2.6 7.3 9.9 1.4 0.6 2.9 3.1 3.6 21.3
1995-96 25 MIA NBA 70 70 38.2 8.0 15.4 .523 0.1 0.4 .300 7.0 10.2 .685 3.1 7.3 10.4 2.3 1.0 2.7 3.7 3.5 23.2
1996-97 26 MIA NBA 66 65 35.2 7.2 13.4 .534 0.0 0.1 .111 5.5 8.6 .642 2.9 7.1 9.9 1.6 0.8 2.9 3.4 4.1 19.8
1997-98 27 MIA NBA 58 56 33.4 6.9 12.6 .551 0.0 0.0 5.3 8.0 .665 3.3 6.3 9.6 0.9 0.7 2.2 3.1 3.6 19.2
1998-99 28 MIA NBA 46 46 38.1 7.0 13.8 .511 0.0 0.0 .000 6.0 9.2 .652 3.6 7.4 11.0 1.6 0.7 3.9 3.0 3.5 20.1
1999-00 29 MIA NBA 79 78 34.8 8.3 15.0 .551 0.0 0.1 .000 5.2 7.4 .711 2.7 6.8 9.5 1.6 0.5 3.7 2.7 3.9 21.7
2000-01 30 MIA NBA 13 3 23.5 5.6 10.8 .518 0.0 0.1 .000 2.4 4.2 .564 2.7 5.1 7.8 0.9 0.3 2.4 2.2 1.8 13.6
2001-02 31 MIA NBA 75 74 32.7 6.0 11.5 .516 0.0 0.0 .333 3.8 5.7 .657 2.4 6.0 8.4 1.2 0.4 2.5 2.4 3.4 15.7
2003-04 33 NJN NBA 12 0 17.9 2.8 5.9 .465 0.0 0.0 2.5 2.8 .882 0.7 1.6 2.3 0.7 0.2 0.5 0.8 2.7 8.0
2004-05 34 TOT NBA 37 17 19.0 2.7 5.7 .472 0.0 0.0 2.2 3.8 .582 1.4 3.9 5.4 0.5 0.2 2.0 1.5 2.2 7.6
2004-05 34 NJN NBA 18 14 25.4 3.8 8.3 .453 0.0 0.0 2.8 4.8 .593 1.7 5.3 7.1 0.8 0.3 2.3 2.5 2.8 10.4
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: tw, jfilling, buckeye due up

Unread postby jfiling » Sat May 30, 2009 12:58 am

Rounding out my starting lineup, I'll take Vinsanity, aka Half Man/Half Amazing.
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PG - Lenny Wilkens
SG - Vince Carter
SF - Larry Bird
PF - Charles Barkley
C - Robert Parish
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: tw, jfilling, buckeye due up

Unread postby jordan kramer » Sat May 30, 2009 1:05 am

jfiling wrote:Rounding out my starting lineup, I'll take Vinsanity, aka Half Man/Half Amazing.
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PG - Lenny Wilkens
SG - Vince Carter
SF - Larry Bird
PF - Charles Barkley
C - Robert Parish

AHHHHH! jfiling why do you have to do me dirty like that???? i wanted vince carter so bad for my next pick! not only cuz i could show twdelaney34 this vid


but because i would get another opportunity to post my favorite video in the history of modern civilization


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Re: NBA Greats Draft: tw, jfilling, buckeye due up

Unread postby buckeye319 » Sat May 30, 2009 1:20 am

Moving Havlicek over to SG, I select last year's Finals MVP - Paul Pierce.

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PG - Nate "Tiny" Archibald
SG - John Havlicek
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Jerry Lucas
C - Shaquille O'Neal
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: Bayou, JordanK & Herm due up

Unread postby jfiling » Sat May 30, 2009 1:57 am

Further updates:
1. rebel: -- Michael Jordan
2. Pup: -- Bill Russell
3. Doc: -- LeBron James
4. booya: -- Kareem Abdul Jabaar
5. FUDU: -- Wilt Chamberlain
6. twdelaney: -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
7. jfiling: -- Larry Bird
8. buckeye: -- Shaq O'neal
9. pharaoh: -- Oscar Robertson
10. herm: -- Moses Malone
11. jordankramer: -- Julius "Dr J" Erving
12. Bayou: -- Tim Duncan
13. Larvell: -- Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon
14. noles: --Kobe Bryant
15. Swerb: -- Jerry West
16. CP: -- Karl Malone

Round 2
CP: -- David Robinson
Swerb: -- Elgin Baylor
noles: -- Isaiah Thomas
Larvell: -- John Stockton
Bayou: -- Bob Pettit
jordan: -- Elvin Hayes
Herm: - Rick Berry
Pharoh: Artis Gilmore
buckeye: John Havlicek
jfiling: Charles Barkley
twdelaney: Scottie Pippen
FUDU: George Gervin
booya: Pete Maravich
Doc: Patrick Ewing
Pup: Kevin Garnett
rebel: Bob Cousy

Round 3
rebel: -- George Mikan
Pup: -- Allen Iverson
Doc: -- Clyde Drexler
booya: -- Kevin McHale
FUDU: -- Jason Kidd
twdelaney: -- Willis Reed
jfiling: -- Robert Parish
buckeye: --Tiny Archibald
pharaoh: --Walt Frazier
herm: --Earl Monroe
jordankramer: --Dwayne Wade
Bayou: --Dominique Wilkens
Larvell: --Adrian Dantley
noles: --Dirk Nowitski
Swerb: --Steve Nash
CP: --Sidney Moncrief

Round 4
CP: -- Gary Payton
Swerb: -- Dwight Howard
noles: -- James Worthy
Larvell:--Reggie Miller
Bayou: -- Joe Dumars
jordan: -- Nate Thurmond
Herm: -- Wes Unseld
Pharoh: -- Carlos Boozer
buckeye: -- Jerry Lucas
jfiling: -- Lenny Wilkens
twdelaney: --- Ray Allen
FUDU: -- Bernard King
booya: -- Carmelo Anthony
Doc: -- Kevin Johnson
Pup: -- Alex English
rebel: -- Dennis Rodman

Round 5
rebel: -- Dave Debusschere
Pup: -- Chris Paul
Doc: -- Elton Brand
booya: -- Red Auerbach
FUDU: -- Dave Cowens
twdelaney: -- Alonzo Mourning
jfiling: -- Vince Carter
buckeye: -- Paul Pierce
pharaoh: --
herm: --
jordankramer: --
Bayou: --
Larvell: --
noles: --
Swerb: --
CP: --
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: tw, jfilling, buckeye due up

Unread postby jordan kramer » Sat May 30, 2009 4:10 pm

c'mon people lets finish out these last few rounds lets go
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Unread postby noles1 » Sat May 30, 2009 4:59 pm

I got about an 1 1/2 before I'm out of commission until tomorrow and I have no idea who I'm going after since Cowens and Zo both got swooped...
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: tw, jfilling, buckeye due up

Unread postby jordan kramer » Sat May 30, 2009 6:01 pm

well now i'm goin to a watch party at my friends...
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: tw, jfilling, buckeye due up

Unread postby jfiling » Sun May 31, 2009 8:01 pm

Maybe updating the title will help. I know Pharoah has posted today, but just hasn't checked this thread.
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: British, Herm, JordanKramer due up

Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:51 am

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Re: NBA Greats Draft: British, Herm, JordanKramer due up

Unread postby hermanfontenot » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:02 am

Need a point guard. So I'm going with Maurice Cheeks, the stalwart from West Texas A&M.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cheekma01.html

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Unread postby jordan kramer » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:29 pm

ok i need a point guard who can distribute and stretch the D with his shot. i'm gonna take William Mark Price.

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Price was known as one of the league's most consistent shooters. He finished his career with a 90.4% free throw shooting percentage, placing him as the league's all-time leader in this statistical area, and a 40% three-point field goal shooting percentage. During the 1988–89 season, Price became the third player, along with Larry Bird and Reggie Miller, to shoot at least 40% from three-point range, at least 50% from the field and at least 90% from the free throw line. Price ranked consistently among the assist leaders (as of April 2009, he is the Cavaliers all-time leader with 4,206), twice won the Long Distance Shootout, and was a four-time All-Star. Price was named to the All-NBA First Team after the 1992–93 season. Price currently ranks second in franchise steals with 734, a Cavaliers record that stood until December 9, 2008 when LeBron James surpassed him.


For his career, Price ranks first among all Cavaliers in three-point field goals made and attempted, assists, steals and free throw percentage. He also ranks among the top 10 all-time in franchise history in points scored (3rd), three-point field goal percentage (3rd), free throws made (3rd), field goals made (4th), field goals attempted (4th), games played (5th), free throws attempted (5th) and minutes played (5th). Price was named to the Cavaliers’ All-Time Starting Five by 32 members of the Northeast Ohio media during the Cavaliers 30th Anniversary season. He was also the leading vote-getter on the Cavs All- Time Team, as voted on by the Cleveland fans. The Cavaliers retired his jersey on November 13, 1999.


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Re: NBA Greats Draft: British, Herm, JordanKramer due up

Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:59 pm

I was set to take Maurice Cheeks to round out my starting 5, but it wasn't to be. So I think I am actually going to work my bench first and take a bench guard and offensive spark....

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Richmond is the Kings' franchise's third leading scorer. For his efforts, his #2 was retired by the club in 2003.

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Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:28 pm

Needing a power forward it was tough waiting until this round to get one. He may be a little small for the position but as he said in the past, "My best defense is to score more points than my opponent". Bill Russell once said of him, "He's the best shooter of all time, period."

Larvell Blanks selects at Power forward

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Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:41 pm

PF - Bob McAdoo
SF - Adrian Dantley
C - Hakeem Olajuwon
SG -Reggie Miller
PG - John Stockton


Damn, I'd buy tickets to that show. That's a high scoring starting unit, Stockton would be good for 20 dimes a game.
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Unread postby noles1 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:49 pm

Surprised he is still there amid some of the other selections (even had to run thru and double-check again)

But I'm going with a Top 50 player in Bob Lanier...

20-10 guy that gave Abdul-Jabbar and others of his time fits with his physicality and offensive game. Now he's a complementary piece to my squad.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ebo01.html

Had it down to him or Nate Thurmond hoping they would slip to me... got lucky I think that Lanier did.

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Unread postby swerb » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:50 pm

Sheeeeeeeeet ... gimme The Zen Master Phil Jackson. As a coach, not a player. No brainer.

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Re: NBA Greats Draft: Swerb, CP*2, Swerb, noles, Larvel

Unread postby jfiling » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:09 pm

Swerb wrote:Sheeeeeeeeet ... gimme The Zen Master Phil Jackson. As a coach, not a player. No brainer.

That brings up a point. Since i have Lenny Wilkens as a PG, nobody can take him as a coach, right? Also, since at least one person so far has moved a guy from the position they said they drafted him at, can I make Lenny the coach if I choose? Last thing, can Lenny be a player-coach, like he did for a few seasons?
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: Swerb, CP*2, Swerb, noles, Larvel

Unread postby noles1 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:08 pm

I know it's a bit late and this has already taken awhile but I recommend we go 8-deep. Allows us to better distribute the bench and draw up easier matchups for who we play...

Just throwing it out there.

Also, how important is a coach really when we are basically putting together teams of the "best of the best", I mean can't I just put Hubie Brown as my coach for the comedic effect?

Also I want to know the coach-player option ruling... I'd love for Bird to coach this squad. Always thought he would have been a legendary coach when readin stories about him at Indiana.
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Unread postby FUDU » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:26 pm

IMO the person can be selected as both a player and a coach, even by two different posters, if they so choose.

I mean really if anybody wants Larry Bird as their coach, more power to ya.

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Re: NBA Greats Draft: noles, Swerb, CP, CP and Swerb up next

Unread postby CP » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:13 pm

All about value here. Style points are one thing but I am working toward a theme. Winning pretty is one thing but winning effectively wins championships.

With the last pick in the 5th round of the draft, I select T-Mac:

Tracy McGrady, SG

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While he gets a bad rap nowadays because of his playoff failures, he's the only 2-time scoring champion available, and I don't need his leadership skills. I need him to put the ball in the hole and to create openings and shots for the rest of my team. He's more than capable of doing such a thing and in fact, McGrady is one of the best pure scorers in the league's history. He has already amassed more than 17000 points and is just now turning 30. As a scorer from the SF position on my team, McGrady turns the draft's toughest defense into a threat at both ends of the floor.





And with the 1st pick in the 6th round of the draft, I select one of the best defensive big men in the history of the league:

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Unread postby fundamentals » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:05 am

In all good fun, say it ain't so Pup :lmfao: Sasha is still available. :clap:

Pup wrote:
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Pup wrote:I will still take Sasha over T-Back.


Only a matter of time then before Sasha gets selected ahead of McGrady in the NBA Greats thread. :wha?:


IMO, he has as much of a chance at getting picked as a zero playoff series winning, injury prone, whining, quitter like T-Ouch.


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While he gets a bad rap nowadays because of his playoff failures, he's the only 2-time scoring champion available, and I don't need his leadership skills. I need him to put the ball in the hole and to create openings and shots for the rest of my team. He's more than capable of doing such a thing and in fact, McGrady is one of the best pure scorers in the league's history. He has already amassed more than 17000 points and is just now turning 30. As a scorer from the SF position on my team, McGrady turns the draft's toughest defense into a threat at both ends of the floor.
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Unread postby FUDU » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:21 pm

McGrady is one of the best pure scorers in the league's history.


I'd normally let that comment go or at least here you out on it, but this is an NBA Greats Draft thread....some of us, well I know I do, have 3 or 4 better scorers on just one team!

McGrady is a new age scorer, volume volume volume.

You gotta do what you gotta do I guess.
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Unread postby FUDU » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:36 pm

BTW this is losing steam quickly IMO.

We gotta get this movin before it isn't even worth it.

Just sayin.
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Unread postby CP » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:19 pm

FUDU wrote:
McGrady is one of the best pure scorers in the league's history.


I'd normally let that comment go or at least here you out on it, but this is an NBA Greats Draft thread....some of us, well I know I do, have 3 or 4 better scorers on just one team!

McGrady is a new age scorer, volume volume volume.

You gotta do what you gotta do I guess.


The volume argument goes against the old-timers. The number of possessions per game in today's game and pace of today's game shows that many less shots are taken in today's game than were taken in, say, Wilt's game. Particularly guys like Hollinger who track things like game pace across eras show how much more difficult it is to put up numbers in today's game than in yesterday's game.

I knew McGrady would not be a popular pick with this crowd when I made it, but my hope is that the guy's numbers speak for themselves. The fact that McGrady is a top-20 all-time player in PER speaks for itself, particularly when many of the guys ahead of him were big men (Shaq, Admiral, Wilt, Pettit, Duncan, Barkley, Kareem, Malone, Garnett, Hakeem). As a SF, only Bird posted a higher career PER.

I'm comfortable with McGrady as a top scorer at the 3. Like some other guys, when we consider what perspectives we are showing here, McGrady is getting dumped on due to his recent years. Vince Carter went without any reference to his antics in the playoffs year after year and admitting that he quit on his teams. Iverson quit on the Pistons this year and not a mention. There are players who have done way worse than what people like to bag on McGrady for doing and they've already been taken.

So, I'll defend my pick of McGrady against all comers at this point in the draft. Hell, Chris Mullin is gone and he tried to drink himself out of the league but no one remembers that. Pete Maravich is gone and he did drink himself out of the league. McGrady is everyone's favorite whipping boy but his numbers speak for themselves.
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: Swerb, CP*2, Swerb, noles, Larvel

Unread postby BooyaCS » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:27 pm

Pete Maravich is gone and he did drink himself out of the league.


It was actually injury and drinking himself out of the league. At least say he was injured first.
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Unread postby aoxo1 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:40 pm

By volume scorer they mean inefficient, not necessarily just takes a lot of shots. McGrady is a career 43.6% shooter, 33.6% from 3, who 18.4 shots per game to get 22.1 points (1.20 points per shot). Compare that to Kobe who has gotten 25.1 with 19.2 shots (1.31), or Bird who got 24.3 with 19.3 (1.26). Or hell, why not LeBron with 27.5 in 20.9 shots (1.31). 20.8 in 16.8 for Vince (1.24). 27.1 in 22.1 for AI (1.22).

AI is the definition of a volume scorer, and he produced more points per shot than McGrady.

I do agree that McGrady gets degraded too much and people forget how ridiculous he was in his prime. He was, for several years, one of the 2 best wings in the NBA along with Bryant. That's saying something.
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Unread postby FUDU » Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:16 pm

It's all cool CP just givin you some shit since we are competitors in this thing. aoxo said it well. McGrady didn't suck by any means in his prime but he just needed a lot more effort in getting his. Good point about the pace of the game and all and also about Vince Carter.

To continue with some of the shit talkin, don't look now but I have quietly put together a sick scoring machine and I am not done.

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Unread postby swerb » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:08 pm

Gimme PF Pau Gasol.

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Unread postby noles1 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:45 am

To complement my guards I'll go with one of the most underrated players ever... DJ

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Perfect 1st guard off the bench, can play and defend either position too. Bigger the game, the better he played...

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Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:29 am

This is going to kill me but I'm hoping the guard I want will still be there my next go around (wishful thinking) After seeing this guy was available still, I couldn't pass him up. He can play power forward and slide over to Center if needed. He has always put up big numbers (he averaged 20.7 points, 9.8 rebounds, and 4.2 assists for his whole career.) and will likely be a candidate for the Hall of Fame. His soft hands and natural court sense made him one of the most prolific big-man passers in NBA history.

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plus with the scorers I already have on this team, I don't need Webber to take the last shot!

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Re: NBA Greats Draft: Swerb, noles, Larvel, Bayou, JordanKramer

Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:42 am

Glad you went that route Larvell. I hope this is the guard you were looking at. I'm going with....

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Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:50 am

Bayou Tribe wrote:Glad you went that route Larvell. I hope this is the guard you were looking at. I'm going with....

Tim Hardaway from UTEP



Wow, that's cold but nut nope, my guy is still sitting there. For how much longer, who knows?
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Unread postby jordan kramer » Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:07 am

for some energy off the bench, give me Amare Stoudemire.

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Unread postby jfiling » Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:43 am

Even more updates:
1. rebel: -- Michael Jordan
2. Pup: -- Bill Russell
3. Doc: -- LeBron James
4. booya: -- Kareem Abdul Jabaar
5. FUDU: -- Wilt Chamberlain
6. twdelaney: -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
7. jfiling: -- Larry Bird
8. buckeye: -- Shaq O'neal
9. pharaoh: -- Oscar Robertson
10. herm: -- Moses Malone
11. jordankramer: -- Julius "Dr J" Erving
12. Bayou: -- Tim Duncan
13. Larvell: -- Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon
14. noles: --Kobe Bryant
15. Swerb: -- Jerry West
16. CP: -- Karl Malone

Round 2
CP: -- David Robinson
Swerb: -- Elgin Baylor
noles: -- Isaiah Thomas
Larvell: -- John Stockton
Bayou: -- Bob Pettit
jordan: -- Elvin Hayes
Herm: - Rick Berry
Pharoh: Artis Gilmore
buckeye: John Havlicek
jfiling: Charles Barkley
twdelaney: Scottie Pippen
FUDU: George Gervin
booya: Pete Maravich
Doc: Patrick Ewing
Pup: Kevin Garnett
rebel: Bob Cousy

Round 3
rebel: -- George Mikan
Pup: -- Allen Iverson
Doc: -- Clyde Drexler
booya: -- Kevin McHale
FUDU: -- Jason Kidd
twdelaney: -- Willis Reed
jfiling: -- Robert Parish
buckeye: --Tiny Archibald
pharaoh: --Walt Frazier
herm: --Earl Monroe
jordankramer: --Dwayne Wade
Bayou: --Dominique Wilkens
Larvell: --Adrian Dantley
noles: --Dirk Nowitski
Swerb: --Steve Nash
CP: --Sidney Moncrief

Round 4
CP: -- Gary Payton
Swerb: -- Dwight Howard
noles: -- James Worthy
Larvell:--Reggie Miller
Bayou: -- Joe Dumars
jordan: -- Nate Thurmond
Herm: -- Wes Unseld
Pharoh: -- Carlos Boozer
buckeye: -- Jerry Lucas
jfiling: -- Lenny Wilkens
twdelaney: --- Ray Allen
FUDU: -- Bernard King
booya: -- Carmelo Anthony
Doc: -- Kevin Johnson
Pup: -- Alex English
rebel: -- Dennis Rodman

Round 5
rebel: -- Dave Debusschere
Pup: -- Chris Paul
Doc: -- Elton Brand
booya: -- Red Auerbach
FUDU: -- Dave Cowens
twdelaney: -- Alonzo Mourning
jfiling: -- Vince Carter
buckeye: -- Paul Pierce
pharaoh: -- Chris Mullin
herm: -- Maurice Cheeks
jordankramer: -- Mark Price
Bayou: -- Mitch Richmond
Larvell: -- Bob McAdoo
noles: -- Bob Lanier
Swerb: -- NY Knicks Power Forward Phil Jackson (just being a pain, Rich)
CP: -- Tracy McGrady

Round 6
CP: -- Dikembe Mutombo
Swerb: -- Pau Gasol
noles: -- Dennis Johnson
Larvell: -- Chris Webber
Bayou: -- Tim Hardaway
jordan: -- Amare Stoudemire
Herm: --
Pharoh: --
buckeye: --
jfiling: --
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Unread postby FUDU » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:26 am

Via request by PM Herm picks Jack Sikma.

I am dead serious.
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Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:34 am

FUDU wrote:Via request by PM Herm picks Jack Sikma.

I am dead serious.



Isn't Sikma still the only center ever to lead the league in FT % ?
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Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:13 am

Bayou Tribe wrote:
FUDU wrote:Via request by PM Herm picks Jack Sikma.

I am dead serious.



Isn't Sikma still the only center ever to lead the league in FT % ?


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Unread postby British_Pharaoh » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:39 am

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Unread postby jfiling » Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:54 pm

BUCKEYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Unread postby hermanfontenot » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:29 pm

FUDU wrote:I am dead serious.


DU is just jealous that he doesn't have the Sik-ness as his backup pivot.

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Unread postby jfiling » Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:00 am

Hey FUDU,

I just checked the Google spreadsheet thingie, which is awesome, but I wasn't the guy who drafted Alonzo Mourning.
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At what point do we:

A) Start skipping slow drafters
B) Send this thing to the grave
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Unread postby FUDU » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:30 am

Pup wrote:At what point do we:

A) Start skipping slow drafters
B) Send this thing to the grave

I agree on the slow drafters part, sheesh guys.

I am too far into it to send to the grave though, I'll play this thing out myself now if I have to.
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Unread postby FUDU » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:38 am

jfiling wrote:Hey FUDU,

I just checked the Google spreadsheet thingie, which is awesome, but I wasn't the guy who drafted Alonzo Mourning.

Should be correrect now, sorry.

Anybody else let me know if the spread sheets are inaccurate, I'll be using them to give a team total for stats for team write ups.
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Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:41 am

FUDU wrote:
Pup wrote:At what point do we:

A) Start skipping slow drafters
B) Send this thing to the grave

I agree on the slow drafters part, sheesh guys.

I am too far into it to send to the grave though, I'll play this thing out myself now if I have to.



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Unread postby pup » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:40 pm

I vote we skip Buckeye and put jfiling on the clock.

And mandate a 6 hour window to make all future picks or be skipped. If you are skipped, you can jump in at any point and make a pick.
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: buckeye, jfiling, tw and myself up

Unread postby noles1 » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:49 pm

I've been on this religiously so I'm committed to it. As for my team write-up I've already begun to work on it.

I just need to know who Opponent #1 is so I can shred their matchups against my roster of gamers...

Also I might go Vinny Del Negro as my coach just out of arrogance.
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Re: NBA Greats Draft: buckeye, jfiling, tw and myself up

Unread postby FUDU » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:53 pm

Suggestion, starting with jfiling (no offense to him) we start a 3 hour window for remaining picks. If you miss it, you fall back one spot, if you miss that next 3 hour window you fall back another spot, so on and so forth?

No reason we shouldn't get this done this weekend. only 2.5 rounds to go for Christ sakes.
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