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Wine

Unread postby Lebowski » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:40 pm

Probably get murdered around here for this, but I'm a big wine fan. Always looking for suggestions to try. Anyone got anything they wish to share...looking for good reds under $50.
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Re: Wine

Unread postby skatingtripods » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:21 pm

Lebowski wrote:Probably get murdered around here for this, but I'm a big wine fan. Always looking for suggestions to try. Anyone got anything they wish to share...looking for good reds under $50.


Ever been to a store called World Market? Not sure if there's one around you, but you should definitely check them out.
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Re: Wine

Unread postby Lebowski » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:26 pm

I live in Youngstown. We got our first Chipotle in the tricounty area last year. So, no.

(All BSing aside, I've been to World Market in Akron...good selection...thanks for the reminder.)
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Re: Wine

Unread postby hebner20 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:09 pm

Lebowski,

Here is a list of wines I rated "A" in the past 3 years. some are no longer available or available in a newer vintage which may or may not be as good. A lot of these were recommendations from a wine shop that were high in quality-price-ratio (QPR) I have found that if you drink wines mostly under $20 many times, if you try, you can find an $8 bottle that is nearly as good as a $20 bottle. Most on the list are under $15 and some under $10. There may be some duplicates but i did not sort them out. Average price is about $12. Many are widely available perhaps at your local Giant Eagle if it is a nice one.

I don't drink too many wines in the $30-$50 range so if that is where you are looking this list will not help much.
As you can see below most are from California

State/Country # of bottles

California 48
Italy 8
Argentina 5
Washington 4
Australia 4
France 3
Spain 2
South Africa 2
Chile 1


Generally the list is organized as: the name of the wine, vintage, varietal, appelation. Also, the spelling may be off as I type by the hunt and peck method. Lots of good memories in these wines. Cheers.


Vintellect 05 .45 shiraz,.28 cab,.18 grenache,.11 mourvedre
Ledson '04 Old Vines Zinfandel Redwood Valley
Excelsior Cabernet Sauvignon '02 S. Africa
La Boca '05 Merlot Mendoza Argentina
Tisdale California Shiraz 2004
Camaraderie Cellars Cab Franc '02
Pine and Post 2004 Wash state Merlot
Cain Cuvee NV3 Napa Valley Merlot 46Cab Sav 41 Cab Franc 13
Enotria Dolcetto 1999
Cycles Gladiator Cabernet 2005
Masi Valpolicella 2005
Martin & Weyrich 1998 Insieme California
Campus Oaks Old Vin Zin Lodi 2004
Barbera D'alba La Loggia '05
Zaca Mesa Z Cuvee 02 Santa Ynez Valley
Alexander and Fitch Alexander valley '05 Cab
Barbera D'alba Gagliardo 2003
Epicuro Salice Salentino 2003
Urano 2005 Syrah Mendodoza
Sanchez Temranillo and Syrah 50-50 Valencia
Lachasse Du Pape Cotes Du Rhone 2003
Zaca Mesa Z Cuvee 02 Santa Ynez Valley
Stephen Vincent "Crimson" Rhone style '05 Calif.
Cycles Gladiator Pinot Noir Central Coast 2005
Campo Bargello 2004
Redtree Petite Sirah '05 California
Zaca Mesa Z Cuvee 02 Santa Ynez Valley
Stephen Vincent "Crimson" Rhone style '05 Calif.
Redtree Cabernet Sauvignon '05 California
Beauzeeaux (Bozo) 05 California
Redtree Cabernet Sauvignon '05 California
Pepperwood Grove 06 Valle Central Pinot Noir
Lirac Cotes Du Rhone '03
Chateau Davril Bordeaux 05
Giribaldi '05 Dolcetto D'alba
Tractor Shed Red 2005 Napa Valley
Marietta Old Vine Red Lot #45 no vintage
Edmunds St. John The Shadow '02 Calif. Syrah
Red Diamond Merlot 2004 Washington
Annie's Lane '01 Cab 8 merlot 11 Clare Valley
Alfredo Roca Pinot Noir '06 medoza
Vinos Sin-ley G-2 '05 grenache
Pedroncelli Dry Crek Valley Mother Clone Zin. '05
Red Diamond Merlot 2004 Washington
Encore red medley 2003 monterey county Calif.
Montaribaldi Barbera '05
Beauzeeaux (Bozo) 05 California
Zaca Mesa Z Cuvee 02 Santa Ynez Valley
Buzzard Tree 05 Meritage Paso Robles
Dog House Zeke's Zin 04 California
TBD 2007 Red Wine Lodi
Bogle 2006 Petite Sirah California
Dog House Zeke's Zin 04 California
California Wine Party 06 Paso Robles red blend
Tuttobene '05
Wooloomooloo SE Australia 2006 Shiraz
Sandholdt 05 Lodi Petite Sirah
Mark West 07 Pinot Noir
Astica 07 Malbec Argentina
Red Flyer 03 California
Parque no? 2006 napa valley
Sacred Stone NV Master's Red Blend cask # 004
Stephen Vincent "Crimson" Rhone style '07 Calif.
Golden Kaan '04 Pinotage S. Africa Western Cape
Jade Mountain Mourvedre 06 Conta Costa County
Gouguenheim 06 Bonarda-Syrah 06 Valle Escondido
Trinitas 2004 Old Vine Cuvee Contra Costa County
Buzzard Tree 05 Meritage Paso Robles
Coastal Vines 2008 California
Dynamite North Coast 2007 Zinfandel
Twisted Old Vine Zin 08 California
Lost Angel 06 Central Coast Petite Sirah
Country Club Sonoma County 05 Merlot
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Re: Wine

Unread postby Ziner » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:41 am

$50 a bottle? or gallon? For someone who has spent $72 bucks for 24 Imperial Dortmunder's, why can I not bring myself around to spend more then $15 for a bottle of wine (maybe it is the hangover). I usually go and just ask the dude at the wine store, most know their wine.
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Re: Wine

Unread postby Lebowski » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:14 am

Hebner...wow. That's quite the list! Thanks...I'll have to try some of those.
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Re: Wine

Unread postby jb » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:01 pm

Don't knock where you live for wine. Its one thingthese wops down here know.

VE, 5 Points, and Mike Albarini's all have killer selections.

I'll ask my lady for recommendations as she drinks vino eh'ry day.
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Re: Wine

Unread postby Lebowski » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:08 pm

JB -- you are correct, VE and Chalet Premier are both great for wine (and beer).
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Re: Wine

Unread postby The Tribe Zone » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:51 pm

I always direct wine drinkers to a winery in Wisconsin. Many years ago it used to be my great-great grandfathers farm/orchard....I remember playing in the barn and cherry orchards when I was quite young....

The farm was eventually given up, and a winery bought it and kept the name of my g/g/grandparents....

You can order online, their red wines are supposed to be quite good, and grabbing awards...The Untouchable Red is one.....

http://www.simoncreekwines.com/

See what you think..
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Re: Wine

Unread postby Orenthal » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:19 pm

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Re: Wine

Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:15 pm

I'm a huge lover of Red Wine and my advice always is..... get as close to the winemaker as possible!

Generally speaking, the quality of "easy-to-buy" wine is pretty crappy. Stuff that you can pick off the Supermarket shelf is generally mass produced and, whislt drinkable, nowhere near the value you should get for your money.

Fortunately here in the UK I'm a member of an online wine site that sources the wines directly from the winemaker without having to go through the middle men that add to the price.

My advice would be to try and find something similar in the US and just keep trying different grapes to see which is your preference..... if you already have a prefered grape (mine is Syrah), then look to try from different countries until you find something that sits well with you (it's South Africa for me).

The one problem with this approach is, when you go "directly" to smaller winemakers there's only a finite amount of a certain vintage (unlike the larger companies that mass-produce), so you will find that a certain wine you like might just run out of stock.

Oh well, it gives me an excuse to try even more.
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Re: Wine

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Re: Wine

Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:40 pm

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Re: Wine

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:47 pm

Peeker643 wrote:
What's nice with that one CDT is you can stick a rag into the opening when you've drunk half of it, light it and then throw it, so that it makes a nice diversion or weapon when trying to evacuate the neighborhood in which you bought it.



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Re: Wine

Unread postby hebner20 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:20 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:I'm a huge lover of Red Wine and my advice always is..... get as close to the winemaker as possible!

Generally speaking, the quality of "easy-to-buy" wine is pretty crappy. Stuff that you can pick off the Supermarket shelf is generally mass produced and, whislt drinkable, nowhere near the value you should get for your money.

Fortunately here in the UK I'm a member of an online wine site that sources the wines directly from the winemaker without having to go through the middle men that add to the price.

My advice would be to try and find something similar in the US and just keep trying different grapes to see which is your preference..... if you already have a prefered grape (mine is Syrah), then look to try from different countries until you find something that sits well with you (it's South Africa for me).

The one problem with this approach is, when you go "directly" to smaller winemakers there's only a finite amount of a certain vintage (unlike the larger companies that mass-produce), so you will find that a certain wine you like might just run out of stock.

Oh well, it gives me an excuse to try even more.



DAZ,

Not sure if you ever lived in the US but good supemarkets in the US have wine departments that are on par with a good wine shop. Also, we have a lot of laws regarding exporting and importing wines from and to different states so buying direct from the winery may not work. Things are opening up and we may soon have little to no restrictions. Not sure we can ever buy direct from an winery outside of the US. I think we have to go through a distributor. Hell from the UK you are a short trip away from France and other wine "Meccas" - must be cool. Another problem we are having recently in the US is the strength of the Euro. Over the past few years a $15 dollar wine (9 Euros) has gone up to $23 (15 Euros) That is also part of the reason I have been drinking more US wines (Mostly California).

Let me know if you ever go over for tastings at wineries in France etc. I would love to hear about it.
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Re: Wine

Unread postby Lubber » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:36 am

Lebowski wrote:Probably get murdered around here for this, but I'm a big wine fan. Always looking for suggestions to try. Anyone got anything they wish to share...looking for good reds under $50.


Lebowski...

I make homemade vino and have some cabernet sauvignon, Sangiovese, & Syrah if you are interested, $10 a bottle.
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Re: Wine

Unread postby MartyM » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:41 am

Two of my favorite reds are:

2006 Copper Streak Vineyard (Cab) - available through Nickel and Nickel
2006 Buoncristiani OPC - Napa valley - Seen it at Heinen's
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