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Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby mattvan1 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:10 pm

now has a coaching position with the offense, but it's unclear as to exactly what his role will be......

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/30/report-browns-hire-dowell-loggains/

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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby motherscratcher » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:19 pm

Who's his agent?

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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby jerryroche » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:35 pm

Banner's rolling the dice. It's a crapshoot now. What's the old saying about a blind squirrel finding a nut? Can we hope???

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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:01 am

Just like to remind people that I'm selling my Bleacher season tix. Sec 119, row 15. I'll make ya a good deal.
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby TouchEmAllTime » Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:03 pm

Is that guy a "little person"?
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby mattvan1 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:34 pm

TouchEmAllTime wrote:Is that guy a "little person"?



Listed at 5'5". Walked on at Arkansas and was a backup QB and held on placekicks. 7 or so years with the Titans. Munchak really spoke highly of the guy.

Dowell Loggains is in his sixth season as a Titans coach and first full season as offensive coordinator. He was promoted to offensive coordinator on Nov. 26, 2012 after spending two-and-a-half seasons as quarterbacks/passing game coach.

Loggains has worked with several successful NFL coordinators during his time in the NFL, including Sean Payton, Norm Chow, Mike Heimerdinger and Chris Palmer. These diverse influences will be evident in an offense that will employ elements of all of these mentors.



http://www.titansonline.com/team/coaches/Loggains_Dowell/f1972776-b762-4842-b76b-908a952721d2

Nice to see he worked with Chris Palmer. Things have now come full circle in C-Town.

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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby justmebd » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:10 pm

Why do I feel like none of this matters?

I know I'm not the only one who thinks 11 months from now the Browns will be looking for another front office (and, therefore, a new coach and coaching staff).

So, did everyone quit this forum for Twitter? Another forum?

The traffic on the forums overall seems to have fallen off of a cliff in the last few months.
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:07 am

I enjoy taking a big fat shit on this regime as much as anyone, and if one wanted to find humor in this hire, they certainly could.

The fact does remain that the Browns hired a guy as - I guess - QB coach that was OC of a team that averaged a whopping 2 yards a game less then the immortal Norv Turner. And he made Jake Locker look almost competent in the brief period of time that said run-first QB was healthy.
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby mattvan1 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:13 pm

Hikohadon wrote:I enjoy taking a big fat shit on this regime as much as anyone, and if one wanted to find humor in this hire, they certainly could.

The fact does remain that the Browns hired a guy as - I guess - QB coach that was OC of a team that averaged a whopping 2 yards a game less then the immortal Norv Turner. And he made Jake Locker look almost competent in the brief period of time that said run-first QB was healthy.


Who knows, maybe the guy will be the reincarnation of Bill Walsh?

Just find it curious that they hire a QB Coach before an OC. I would think the new OC might want a bit of input into who gets hired to coach the most important position on the field.
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:20 pm

mattvan1 wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:I enjoy taking a big fat shit on this regime as much as anyone, and if one wanted to find humor in this hire, they certainly could.

The fact does remain that the Browns hired a guy as - I guess - QB coach that was OC of a team that averaged a whopping 2 yards a game less then the immortal Norv Turner. And he made Jake Locker look almost competent in the brief period of time that said run-first QB was healthy.


Who knows, maybe the guy will be the reincarnation of Bill Walsh?

Just find it curious that they hire a QB Coach before an OC. I would think the new OC might want a bit of input into who gets hired to coach the most important position on the field.


Yeah, Banner & Lombardi insisting on hiring subordinate coaches (rather than their coaching superiors making the hires) is all sortsa ass-backwards. But if Shanahanahan ends up being the OC, it actually seems like they might have a solid coaching staff.

Course, I thought that last year too...
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby mattvan1 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:25 pm

Hikohadon wrote:
mattvan1 wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:I enjoy taking a big fat shit on this regime as much as anyone, and if one wanted to find humor in this hire, they certainly could.

The fact does remain that the Browns hired a guy as - I guess - QB coach that was OC of a team that averaged a whopping 2 yards a game less then the immortal Norv Turner. And he made Jake Locker look almost competent in the brief period of time that said run-first QB was healthy.


Who knows, maybe the guy will be the reincarnation of Bill Walsh?

Just find it curious that they hire a QB Coach before an OC. I would think the new OC might want a bit of input into who gets hired to coach the most important position on the field.


Yeah, Banner & Lombardi insisting on hiring subordinate coaches (rather than their coaching superiors making the hires) is all sortsa ass-backwards. But if Shanahanahan ends up being the OC, it actually seems like they might have a solid coaching staff.

Course, I thought that last year too...


Shanahan confirmed according to Fox Sports.
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby Govbarney » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:31 pm

Form top to bottom this has got to be one of, if not the youngest coaching staffs in the NFL. Not saying its good or bad, just interesting.
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Unread postby TouchEmAllTime » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:41 pm

Govbarney wrote:Form top to bottom this has got to be one of, if not the youngest coaching staffs in the NFL. Not saying its good or bad, just interesting.


Oh it more than likely won't be good.
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby mattvan1 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:07 pm

TouchEmAllTime wrote:
Govbarney wrote:Form top to bottom this has got to be one of, if not the youngest coaching staffs in the NFL. Not saying its good or bad, just interesting.


Oh it more than likely won't be good.


What is interesting is that Shanahan the Elder was a master, thanks to Alex Gibbs and a unique (at the time) zone blocking scheme, at getting low round picked RBs to run for crazy yardage (T. Davis). Kubiak and Shanahan Jr. continued the trend in Houston with dudes such as A. Foster. Fits with the Banner approach that RBs are not highly valued.

The issue- none of his new coaches, all hired before him, have experience with running a ZB scheme, which takes a season to learn.

Weird.
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:49 am

mattvan1 wrote:
TouchEmAllTime wrote:
Govbarney wrote:Form top to bottom this has got to be one of, if not the youngest coaching staffs in the NFL. Not saying its good or bad, just interesting.


Oh it more than likely won't be good.


What is interesting is that Shanahan the Elder was a master, thanks to Alex Gibbs and a unique (at the time) zone blocking scheme, at getting low round picked RBs to run for crazy yardage (T. Davis). Kubiak and Shanahan Jr. continued the trend in Houston with dudes such as A. Foster. Fits with the Banner approach that RBs are not highly valued.

The issue- none of his new coaches, all hired before him, have experience with running a ZB scheme, which takes a season to learn.

Weird.


A good take. However, despite myself, I almost feel a slight optimism about Shanny Jr. He was doing quite well on his own before joining his father with the suckhole that is the Racial Slurs.

'Course, DC ain't the only suckhole in the NFL...
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby OldDawg » Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:20 am

TouchEmAllTime wrote:
Govbarney wrote:Form top to bottom this has got to be one of, if not the youngest coaching staffs in the NFL. Not saying its good or bad, just interesting.


Oh it more than likely won't be good.


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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby peeker643 » Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:06 am

OldDawg wrote:
TouchEmAllTime wrote:
Govbarney wrote:Form top to bottom this has got to be one of, if not the youngest coaching staffs in the NFL. Not saying its good or bad, just interesting.


Oh it more than likely won't be good.


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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby kennesawmountainwahoo » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:58 am

peeker643 wrote:"Not good" is still "better" than "shit your pants bad".

Maybe that's the goal.


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Unread postby mattvan1 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:31 am

Well, I guess the bright side is they didn't wait to interview Adam Gase.
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Re: Some Out of Work Dude No One Has Heard Of

Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:41 am

mattvan1 wrote:Well, I guess the bright side is they didn't wait to interview Adam Gase.


Well played. :thumb up:
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Unread postby OldDawg » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:04 pm

mattvan1 wrote:Well, I guess the bright side is they didn't wait to interview Adam Gase.


The down side is that they didn't wait on Dan Quinn (not that he'd come). Holy mackerel is that defense amazing!?!?
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Unread postby Govbarney » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:15 pm

OldDawg wrote:
mattvan1 wrote:Well, I guess the bright side is they didn't wait to interview Adam Gase.


The down side is that they didn't wait on Dan Quinn (not that he'd come). Holy mackerel is that defense amazing!?!?


He probibly would have took the job if offered, but he has only been the DC there for a year, Pete Carol/Gus Bradley are the primary architects of that Defense.

Just like the excuse for Gase's success can be Manning , or McDaniels success can be Brady, You cant credit Quinn with out attributing some of it to Carol, and Bradley.

With Pettine, there are no excuses for the turn-around of Buffalos D, that D sucked the year before he arrived, and Doug Marrone has an Offensive backgound, so you know Pettine had allot of control.
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