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Vick and Dog Fighting

Unread postby yargs7 » Mon May 28, 2007 11:09 am

That piece ESPN did on Mike Vick and his involvement with dog fighting made me sick. Those videos were extremely disturbing. I'd like to throw Vick in a pit with a hungry mountain lion and see how he fares. And throw Portis in there too.

http://broadband.espn.go.com/ivp/splash2?id=2883616

(make sure your kids aren't around when you watcht this)

How hard do you all think the NFL will/should come down on him if what the informant said was true?
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Unread postby leadpipe » Mon May 28, 2007 11:35 am

This falls right in with the main reason he's not a good NFL quarterback.

He's dumb as a stump.
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Unread postby tzxb4v » Mon May 28, 2007 11:50 am

dog fighting is pretty disturbing. All i have to say is what kind of people does the nfl have that wouldn't pursue some sort of action against the guys. I know if i had a company i wouldn't employ any one that was even remotely connect to something like that.
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Unread postby swerb » Mon May 28, 2007 11:52 am

Bobby Petrino may not last 2 years in the ATL.

They shoulda never traded Schaub.
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Unread postby HoodooMan » Mon May 28, 2007 11:56 am

This is going to develop into a bigger story than steroids in MLB, IMO. Not in the way ESPN covers it, of course, but in the way people actually care about the story.

ESPiN's source says 30-some pro-athletes involved in this stuff. Now, them thar's some witches worth hunting.
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Unread postby Mr. MacPhisto » Mon May 28, 2007 12:27 pm

This is going to develop into a bigger story than steroids in MLB, IMO. Not in the way ESPN covers it, of course, but in the way people actually care about the story.

ESPiN's source says 30-some pro-athletes involved in this stuff. Now, them thar's some witches worth hunting.


Agreed. This is a nation full of dog lovers. I'm one of them and find it unconscionable that anyone could participate in something like this. How can you get any pleasure from training and watching animals maul each other?

Makes me sick and I do care more about this than steroids. With performance enhancers you're doing the damage to yourself and the game. Getting dogs to fight like that is far more disturbing and disgusting to me.
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Unread postby StewieG » Mon May 28, 2007 12:49 pm

If it's ever proven that Vick did what that informant said he did, then he's done.

Bet Atlanta wishes they didn't trade Schaub now, huh?

And Vick's comments that everywhere he goes, people like him...well that just shows how completely out of touch with reality he is.
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Unread postby Guest » Mon May 28, 2007 2:01 pm

I think he will be done also if it's all true.
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Unread postby furls » Mon May 28, 2007 8:48 pm

Outside of the cruelty/PETA issues, the gambling is a real problem for the NFL (not to mention that dog fighting is now a FEDERAL crime). I think, if all this comes out in the wash, Vick is either going to be:

a.) doing time in federal prison
b.) squeeling like a rat in a trap.

Millionaires (even with street cred) tend to go with plan b. From what the informant is saying, Vick looks like a major player and this could get him some serious time.

http://ensign.senate.gov/issleg/legisla ... 9/s382.htm

It is a felony level crime, and guys have been receiving three years just for distributing videos.
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Unread postby yargs7 » Mon May 28, 2007 9:42 pm

Furls wrote:Outside of the cruelty/PETA issues, the gambling is a real problem for the NFL (not to mention that dog fighting is now a FEDERAL crime). I think, if all this comes out in the wash, Vick is either going to be:

a.) doing time in federal prison
b.) squeeling like a rat in a trap.



I think he'll sing like a canary and probably get off on a lesser charge. I hope Goodell drops the hammer on this punk. And I would imagine Nike is going to drop him like a bad habit.
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Unread postby furls » Tue May 29, 2007 12:33 pm

more of the details on the raid are coming out and it is looking more and more like Vick is in deep shit.

There are 5 houses (painted completely black) on the property hidden by a large black fence that enclose the dog fighting complex. Apparently, they found performance enhancing dog-fighting drugs, scales, treadmills, and basically anything else you could need/want for dog fighting in the complex. This is looking like a very serious operation.
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Unread postby rawdawgexpress » Tue May 29, 2007 1:03 pm

Yargs7:

Actually I think this really positions Nike well the Dog Training and Breeding Market.


Furls:

Jesus. Sounds like a dog black ops concentration camp.

Or maybe, just maybe, its Vick doing his part in the War on Terror to create some sort of super-Al-Queda-sniffing pit bull.
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Unread postby leadpipe » Tue May 29, 2007 3:01 pm

What would make this really interesting is if he would have played well the last two years, thus continuing on the path in becoming the league's marquis player. The NFL money machine would make this disappear so fast you wouldn't believe it. Now, with the timing of this whole thing (with the NFL playing up the behavior aspect) this guys past issues, an equally moronic brother and the fact he really isn't that good of a player, well, he might be in trouble.
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Unread postby DarNoor » Tue May 29, 2007 5:38 pm

Vick is a punk. And i'm not saying this because he happens to play for another team. If news came out that one of the Browns was doing this, i would want him out of town. This whole story makes me sick to my stomach. I wonder about the people who actually like this stuff. What is there to like? I don't get it. These people have serious issues, and they all should be locked up.
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Unread postby furls » Tue May 29, 2007 9:36 pm

Yeah, I think he will wear a permanent shit stain on this one for the rest of his career.
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