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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:23 pm

Hikohadon wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:New England arse fucked Tebow last time they played them, but Tebow will put up 25 on that shit D. Fucking back to back weeks this year they gave up 20+ to Tebow and Grossman.


It sounds to me like that you are afraid that something you have dismissed as possible is possible.

Don't believe the hype. Tebow will bust in New England.

I don't say that with happiness, just certainty.


Oh no, I see no way the Pats lose, but I just don't feel like Tebow scoring three TDs because of Mumbles choking for 6 drafts in a row leading to an entire off-season of more Tebow Talk All Day Every Day.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:38 pm

Believe me, there's very little in the universe I want less than Tebow-ism.

It's just that, if I have to choose between gimps, I choose Tebow-gimp over Steeler-gimp every day b/c I see a helluva lot less of Tebow-gimp in my everyday life.

I can not watch TV this week, but I have to leave the house at some point.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Triple-S » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:39 pm

Hikohadon wrote:Believe me, there's very little in the universe I want less than Tebow-ism.

It's just that, if I have to choose between gimps, I choose Tebow-gimp over Steeler-gimp every day b/c I see a helluva lot less of Tebow-gimp in my everyday life.

I can not watch TV this week, but I have to leave the house at some point.


Honestly would rather have him keep playing than the Rats and Modell's ass getting a shot at the lombardi.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby leadpipe » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:47 pm

I do not trust in my bow, my sword does not bring me victory; but you give us victory over our enemies, you put out adversaries to shame. In God we make our boast all day long, and we will praise your name forever.

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If Jesus H. Christ was here right now, I'm sure he would have a message for all those sporting the black and gold in northest Ohio this holy Sunday:

"Go fuck yourselves."

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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:48 pm

leadpipe wrote:I do not trust in my bow, my sword does not bring me victory; but you give us victory over our enemies, you put out adversaries to shame. In God we make our boast all day long, and we will praise your name forever.

-Psalm 44:6-8

If Jesus H. Christ was here right now, I'm sure he would have a message for all those sporting the black and gold in northest Ohio this holy Sunday:

"Go fuck yourselves."

Long live the King.


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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Commodore Perry » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:38 am

LakeErieWarriors wrote:Tebow had 3:16 yards passing.


And a 31.6 yards per completion.

Its clear that Jesus loves Tebow. And certainly God himself still has a lot of pent up rage for cleveland sports.

Fear the day that Tebow plays the Browns and Father and Son unite.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:13 am

FTR...........

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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:41 am

Ah, the art of fans losing their shit and saying colossally stupid things...

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=83049&page=4

Mike Tomlin can't coach. Ike Taylor can't cover. Lebeau needs to retire. Wallace dropped a deep ball - maybe we can bundle him and an overrated Polamalu for a 4th and 5th in April. Roethlisberger had his shot and blew it; I'd personally like to see how Dixon would handle the starting job to begin next year. We'll be lucky to go 6-10 next season.


It's possible this is tongue-in-cheek, but I have yet to meet the Steelers fan capable of such subtleties.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Triple-S » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:25 am

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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby jb » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:26 am

Hikohadon wrote:The beauty of this is of course that New England will arse fuck the Broncs next week.

And that story will stop.

Tebow was good against the Steelers. Lets let him enjoy that for a week. Let the morons rejoice.



Meh. Tebow is purely a means to and end for me, and the end has been reached. He's served his purpose and may now ascend AFAIC. Beating Bellifak would be a bonus, but not emotionally wrapped up in that.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby jb » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:27 am

Hikohadon wrote:Ah, the art of fans losing their shit and saying colossally stupid things...

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=83049&page=4

Mike Tomlin can't coach. Ike Taylor can't cover. Lebeau needs to retire. Wallace dropped a deep ball - maybe we can bundle him and an overrated Polamalu for a 4th and 5th in April. Roethlisberger had his shot and blew it; I'd personally like to see how Dixon would handle the starting job to begin next year. We'll be lucky to go 6-10 next season.


It's possible this is tongue-in-cheek, but I have yet to meet the Steelers fan capable of such subtleties.


Truth. And this is why I get so sick of people like eyesore calling US whiney. Biggest bunch of front running imbeciles ever.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:27 am

^ still jealous of Mumbles awesomeness
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby jb » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:31 am

e0y2e3 wrote:^ still jealous of Mumbles awesomeness



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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:35 am

<---- simply agnostic as to your Steelers loss equating to Super Bowl Victory
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby peeker643 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:36 am

jb wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:Ah, the art of fans losing their shit and saying colossally stupid things...

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=83049&page=4

Mike Tomlin can't coach. Ike Taylor can't cover. Lebeau needs to retire. Wallace dropped a deep ball - maybe we can bundle him and an overrated Polamalu for a 4th and 5th in April. Roethlisberger had his shot and blew it; I'd personally like to see how Dixon would handle the starting job to begin next year. We'll be lucky to go 6-10 next season.


It's possible this is tongue-in-cheek, but I have yet to meet the Steelers fan capable of such subtleties.


Truth. And this is why I get so sick of people like eyesore calling US whiney. Biggest bunch of front running imbeciles ever.


Anyone not understanding there are idiots everywhere can't be taken seriously. I don't think e0y2e3 believes that for a second. He's just not on thepittsburghfan.com
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:37 am

I was all ready to call you an idiot Peeks and say that http://www.thepittsburghfan.com/ doesn't exist, but to my amazement it does!
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Re: NFL Playoffs

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e0y2e3 wrote:I was all ready to call you an idiot Peeks and say that http://www.thepittsburghfan.com/ doesn't exist, but to my amazement it does!


Swerb bought a bunch of those domain names years ago. Wonder if that's one.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:08 pm

peeker643 wrote:Anyone not understanding there are idiots everywhere can't be taken seriously. I don't think e0y2e3 believes that for a second. He's just not on thepittsburghfan.com


Browns fans ARE whiny. They bitch and moan about everything, and they feel ceaselessly sorry for themselves.

Just like fans everywhere.

Fans are dumb. Any city, any country, any sport... unapologetically idiotic.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby jb » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:36 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:<---- simply agnostic as to your Steelers loss equating to Super Bowl Victory



<-------- Feels about Ohio Inbred like Delonte feels about Fathorst.

Sorta like you do about lakers fan. Heh.

And you have NO IDEA what I would be capable of if that event were to ever occur. Projecting a night in jail at minimum. So, um, a grin over Tebow smiting the godless hoard isn't even in the same ballpark.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby jb » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:39 pm

Hikohadon wrote:
peeker643 wrote:Anyone not understanding there are idiots everywhere can't be taken seriously. I don't think e0y2e3 believes that for a second. He's just not on thepittsburghfan.com


Browns fans ARE whiny. They bitch and moan about everything, and they feel ceaselessly sorry for themselves.

Just like fans everywhere.

Fans are dumb. Any city, any country, any sport... unapologetically idiotic.



No sale.

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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:25 pm

jb wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:
peeker643 wrote:Anyone not understanding there are idiots everywhere can't be taken seriously. I don't think e0y2e3 believes that for a second. He's just not on thepittsburghfan.com


Browns fans ARE whiny. They bitch and moan about everything, and they feel ceaselessly sorry for themselves.

Just like fans everywhere.

Fans are dumb. Any city, any country, any sport... unapologetically idiotic.



No sale.

Polk was spot on.


With...?

That NEO should secede from the rest of the state?

That CBS is a factory of sadness?
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:31 pm

jb wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:<---- simply agnostic as to your Steelers loss equating to Super Bowl Victory



<-------- Feels about Ohio Inbred like Delonte feels about Fathorst.

Sorta like you do about lakers fan. Heh.

And you have NO IDEA what I would be capable of if that event were to ever occur. Projecting a night in jail at minimum. So, um, a grin over Tebow smiting the godless hoard isn't even in the same ballpark.


Naw, living in jealousy and fear of your fake rival is mainly a Browns fan exclusive. Franchise has sucked for so long and lost so many of its fans it has managed to lose them to its fake rival/neighbor in the home state. Can't really think of another team that sucks bad enough to let that happen without at least being able to tilt the bandwagon back home on occasion.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby JCoz » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:44 pm

You dont have to suck for a long time for that to happen.

I grew up with an AWFUL LOT of Maize and Blue around me growing up in Cleveland. At least compared to these days.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:48 pm

Meh, the Browns lost an entire generation of fans. You have to suck for a long time to do that.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:59 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:
jb wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:<---- simply agnostic as to your Steelers loss equating to Super Bowl Victory



<-------- Feels about Ohio Inbred like Delonte feels about Fathorst.

Sorta like you do about lakers fan. Heh.

And you have NO IDEA what I would be capable of if that event were to ever occur. Projecting a night in jail at minimum. So, um, a grin over Tebow smiting the godless hoard isn't even in the same ballpark.


Naw, living in jealousy and fear of your fake rival is mainly a Browns fan exclusive. Franchise has sucked for so long and lost so many of its fans it has managed to lose them to its fake rival/neighbor in the home state. Can't really think of another team that sucks bad enough to let that happen without at least being able to tilt the bandwagon back home on occasion.


Another thing fans do - they think they have a monopoly on suffering.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:28 pm

Not on suffering, I carefully pointed out details here.

The Browns lost a generation, their fake neighbor is located within driving distance of the stadium and they have sucked for a stupendously long time (AFTER NOT EXISTING FOR YEARS).

They do have a monopoly on letting their territory get invaded by their fake rival.

That is all I am talking about and it's pretty undeniable.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:48 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Not on suffering, I carefully pointed out details here.

The Browns lost a generation, their fake neighbor is located within driving distance of the stadium and they have sucked for a stupendously long time (AFTER NOT EXISTING FOR YEARS).

They do have a monopoly on letting their territory get invaded by their fake rival.

That is all I am talking about and it's pretty undeniable.


It's very deniable. Ask anyone in Minnesota if they have been invaded with Cheeseheads (everyone in my office but me is located in Minneapolis).

Ask said Cheeseheads who they consider their "rival" to be, and they say Chicago.

Half the people in San Diego are Raiders fans.

The only time Miami sports teams sell out games is when a New York team is in town, and then it becomes a home game for the New Yorkers.

Lots of teams lost generations of fans. Lions. Cards. Saints went 21 years without a winning season, yet when they started winning, the fans came back.

Don't be naive, brah. We suck, but our situation is hardly unique.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:01 pm

You're right, most teams have gone nearly 20 years of pure invasion from a neighbor that is a hop and a skip away and considered a rival.

Happens all the time.

Christ, I'm pointing out shit like what JB and SSS cry about daily, not the fact that no one in Florida cares about Florida sports teams or the five year sways back and forth in the Minny - GB bandwagon riders.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby HoodooMan » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:13 pm

I'd guess that USC/UCLA football has to be at least as bad, no?

Either way, I'm grateful for your hijacking of the QBZEZEZ!!1!!! conversation.
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Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:15 pm

^ The best comp brought up thus far, by far.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Triple-S » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:18 pm

Browns have a shot.

07 kind of injected some life into the fanbase for a short time, mixed in with 2010 where Hillis was jumping over dudes.

I can't recall entirely correctly, but I can I believe in my marketing class there's three types of fans: Casual, Moderate and Diehard.

Diehard's will buy things regardless. The Browns have a ton of those, an abundance if you will. Case in point, an idiot like me who is willing to buy the merch and be sold on another season, won't miss a game, etc. The main ways they've lost the diehards are primarily from "The Move" of all things. They distrust the NFL and pro sports after that happened, and view it in very jaded terms.

Moderates need to be sold on the team a little more. You start winning, they'll show up. Sadly this is where a lot of Tribe and Cavs have seen in the past two decades or so. This is probably where a lot of bandwagoneers for the Steelers are. Again, "The Move" fucked this up as well. Lot of kids my age didn't have a "team" for when they were growing up and clung to the Cowboys/Packers/Steelers. Mix that in with 2004 drafting of the "Ohio" Roethlisberger, and the Browns stuck with complete and utter suck, a lot of folks jumped ship.

Casual? Could give a shit. You'll lure them in with promotions or they'll watch when the team is on the cusp of something. Case in point, I saw old ladies talking about the Cavs post "The Shot" against the Magic, but you are not going to see them talking up Kyrie Irving or even know who he is.

Did they lose a generation of fans? Actually, no. If this was the case you'd see absolutely no Browns fans my age. They lost the moderates yes, but again, there's a decent amount of diehards around to keep things alive per what I've seen year after year. The Diehards are not as vocal in this generation, yes. But they'll get it that way when the team finally shows up.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby FUDU » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:28 pm

Their is another angle to the inbred invasion that is intolerable, the fact that some of them were Browns fans and went to the Dark Side NOT just when the Browns left but after the Browns came back and sucked instantly for 3-4 years. Somebody can quantify the % of these fans but many of them try to pawn it off as if they were either never Browns fans to begin with or weren't closet Steelers fans while waiting for the Browns to return.

Gotta love the ones that were sporting a Lambert jersey, a Cavs hat and Tribe gear in 07.

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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:33 pm

E0, having a conversation with you can at many times seem like a discussion with my ex-wife - you will believe what you want to believe and there's really no point in trying to employ reason.

So, I'll do what I do with her and say, Yes, Cleveland is the only place where the team has sucked for a long time so that people bandwagoned with a rival team located nearby. This is completely unique to the Cleveland area since our football team is made of feces and the people that run it can barely muster enough brainpower to walk and the entire area is a disgusting morass of depression peopled by individuals that can barely be described as human. No team has ever been as a bad as the Browns, the NFL is a cesspool of mediocrity, and the only real cure for our malaise is to down a sweet glass of liquid drainer and jump eagerly into our graves where at least we will no longer have to deal with the completely unprecedented awfulness of our sporting phenomenon.

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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:37 pm

No, you just continue to extrapolate my point out from a unique example of where the fanbase stands at this very moment to some sort of overbearing statement that means the team is fucked forever.

So, whatever. You're actually doing what you are accusing me of doing, so there is that.
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Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:38 pm

FUDU wrote:Their is another angle to the inbred invasion that is intolerable, the fact that some of them were Browns fans and went to the Dark Side NOT just when the Browns left but after the Browns came back and sucked instantly for 3-4 years. Somebody can quantify the % of these fans but many of them try to pawn it off as if they were either never Browns fans to begin with or weren't closet Steelers fans while waiting for the Browns to return.

Gotta love the ones that were sporting a Lambert jersey, a Cavs hat and Tribe gear in 07.

Fuck off, go back to Strongsville.


Anyone that changes team allegiances just so they can root for a winning team should be immediately neutered.

The world is dumb enough without those people reproducing.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:39 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:So, whatever. You're actually doing what you are accusing me of doing, so there is that.


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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby LakeErieWarriors » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:58 pm

Luckily, in NCO there are a lot less assclowns in pittsburgh gear out in public, compared to NEO. They mostly stick to where they belong- the trailer parks they inhabit. Personally, I think the Browns have a large + dedicated fanbase that no other shitty franchise has. I'd like to say when, but I'll just go with IF the Browns ever become a good, solid franchise again, it will be interesting to see what type of people jump on the wagon. If the Steelers have a few down years (which looks entirely possible in the near future), do some of these assholes that changed fav. teams switch back to the Browns?
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Triple-S » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:14 pm

I remember to this day, on the news at age 6 there was a mention on the TV back when the Browns first moved that the Steelers "volunteered" to be cleveland's team to follow or something to that effect.

looking back on it, how anyone with a rational thought in their head would give the NFL a single cent or Nielsen viewer in this city if the team never came back amazes me, certainly not the steelers. I'd sooner cheer on North Korea then cheer on those a-holes.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby FUDU » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:23 pm

LakeErieWarriors wrote:Luckily, in NCO there are a lot less assclowns in pittsburgh gear out in public, compared to NEO. They mostly stick to where they belong- the trailer parks they inhabit. Personally, I think the Browns have a large + dedicated fanbase that no other shitty franchise has. I'd like to say when, but I'll just go with IF the Browns ever become a good, solid franchise again, it will be interesting to see what type of people jump on the wagon. If the Steelers have a few down years (which looks entirely possible in the near future), do some of these assholes that changed fav. teams switch back to the Browns?


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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Triple-S » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:36 pm

What probably made the pre-move rivalry so special was how similar the football (I'm talking generally here, pittsburgh pre 1972 is irrelevant) heritage and rust belt roots intertwined for some good old fashioned hatred.

There's a certain style and personality to the players that made up the game and the (true, not frontrunning) fan bases gripping on to the game. Perhaps it's not TOSU/Michigan level, but it has to be damn close.

Modell stole that too.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby jb » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:46 pm

Hikohadon wrote:E0, having a conversation with you can at many times seem like a discussion with my ex-wife - you will believe what you want to believe and there's really no point in trying to employ reason.

So, I'll do what I do with her and say, Yes, Cleveland is the only place where the team has sucked for a long time so that people bandwagoned with a rival team located nearby. This is completely unique to the Cleveland area since our football team is made of feces and the people that run it can barely muster enough brainpower to walk and the entire area is a disgusting morass of depression peopled by individuals that can barely be described as human. No team has ever been as a bad as the Browns, the NFL is a cesspool of mediocrity, and the only real cure for our malaise is to down a sweet glass of liquid drainer and jump eagerly into our graves where at least we will no longer have to deal with the completely unprecedented awfulness of our sporting phenomenon.

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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:33 am

Yeah, tons of franchises have an entire generation (Gen Y) that know nothing but a team moving, not existing and sucking while the neighbor goes on a 20 year run of success.

Happens all the time.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:34 am

e0y2e3 wrote:Yeah, tons of franchises have an entire generation (Gen Y) that know nothing but a team moving, not existing and sucking while the neighbor goes on a 20 year run of success.

Happens all the time.


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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:52 am

Just found out that Stephen A. Smith is a big Steelers fan. Explains so much.

Denver at New England - I still don't believe in Tebow, certainly not against the Pats. NE by 20.

Houston at Baltimore - Flacco will probably keep this game close with a few turnovers, but the Ravens have enough to beat a 3rd string QB. BAL by 6.

New Orleans at San Francisco - The best team in the NFL right now opens up a can of reality for Alex Smith and the 9ers. NO by 13.

New York at Green Bay - You can see this one coming from a mile away, #1 seed, not playing its best right now, OC has son die this week, Giants getting hot at the right time... NYG by 3.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby pup » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:04 am

Hikohadon wrote:Just found out that Stephen A. Smith is a big Steelers fan. Explains so much.

Denver at New England - I still don't believe in Tebow, certainly not against the Pats. NE by 20.

May god have mercy on your soul.

Houston at Baltimore - Flacco will probably keep this game close with a few turnovers, but the Ravens have enough to beat a 3rd string QB. BAL by 6.

Only QB Flacco can beat in the playoffs. Enjoy turds.

New Orleans at San Francisco - The best team in the NFL right now opens up a can of reality for Alex Smith and the 9ers. NO by 13.

I know this goes against what I normally say, but Saints outside, not so much. 9ers by 3.

New York at Green Bay - You can see this one coming from a mile away, #1 seed, not playing its best right now, OC has son die this week, Giants getting hot at the right time... NYG by 3.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby jerryroche » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:54 am

Hikohadon wrote:New Orleans at San Francisco - The best team in the NFL right now opens up a can of reality for Alex Smith and the 9ers. NO by 13.


Of all the upcoming playoff games, this is the most intriguing: the league's highest-scoring offense vs. the league's second-best defense (229 PA vs. Pittspuke's 227).

For those who claim that the NFL has tilted toward offense and away from defense (and I'm one), this will be an excellent bellwether game. And, unless I'm wrong, it could prove to be evidence that the Browns should be drafting O, O, O in 2012.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby HoodooMan » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:08 pm

jerryroche wrote:For those who claim that the NFL has tilted toward offense and away from defense (and I'm one), this will be an excellent bellwether game. And, unless I'm wrong, it could prove to be evidence that the Browns should be drafting O, O, O in 2012.


Most around here seem content to ignore the Jets' 2010 playoff victories over the #4 & #1 offenses in the NFL, led by Peyton Manning & Tom Brady. Why would a 49ers victory on Saturday be any different? Yet another game that doesn't fit the prevailing Narrative of the Masses would be dismissed & forgotten just as easily, I'm sure.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Gradysmanldy » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:09 pm

Saints went 21 years without a winning season, yet when they started winning, the fans came back.


Same fans packed their stadiums when they sucked that pack CBS every Sunday. Only theirs were genuine cajun hillbillies, where as ours are more of the white trash variety. Use ta' could get double sized 5$ bloodies with zingzang at the stadium though.....was really a good time, either way.

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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby Hikohadon » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:27 pm

HoodooMan wrote:
jerryroche wrote:For those who claim that the NFL has tilted toward offense and away from defense (and I'm one), this will be an excellent bellwether game. And, unless I'm wrong, it could prove to be evidence that the Browns should be drafting O, O, O in 2012.


Most around here seem content to ignore the Jets' 2010 playoff victories over the #4 & #1 offenses in the NFL, led by Peyton Manning & Tom Brady. Why would a 49ers victory on Saturday be any different? Yet another game that doesn't fit the prevailing Narrative of the Masses would be dismissed & forgotten just as easily, I'm sure.


Again, wake me when the Jets win anything but a few playoff games against flawed teams.

When Rex Ryan and his super-Defenses win a ring, then I'll be impressed. There is no denying that good defenses can keep a bad offense in games and even get them to the playoffs. But just getting to the playoffs shouldn't be our goal.
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Re: NFL Playoffs

Unread postby HoodooMan » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:46 pm

Hikohadon wrote:Again, wake me when the Jets win anything but a few playoff games against flawed teams.


I don't want to do the knee-jerk political-talk kind of thing where I lump all the QBerz into one group and triumphantly point and smirk at inconsistencies that stretch over several different people, but in order to avoid doing that, in order to keep my head from blowing off my body, in order to resist finally lighting the accelerant this forum has encouraged me to douse my body with over the last week or so, I'm going to need some help from you.

What, praytell, is it you specifically feel you 1) need and/or 2) ideally want in order to compete for championships in the NFL? And at what cost are you willing to pursue these needs & wants?

(I beg of you, though. If your answer in any way resembles "QBs are all that matter. I'd move up for Luck or RG3, regardless of cost," do me a favor and just shoot me in the back of the head, so I don't have to see it coming.)
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