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Completely Impractical Hypothetical

Unread postby hiko » Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:59 pm

Houston has a SB quality team. Great run game, great WR, great Defense... and no QB. Schaub out for the season. Now Leinart might be gone.

They've got TJ Yates, a low-round rookie and Kellen Clemens, just plain bad.

They are in a desperate Oakland Raiders-type situation.

So... would you call and offer Colt McCoy for a 1st Round pick?

Sure, they should laugh at you, but do you call anyway? Colt's obviously proven much more than Yates, and has more potential than Clemens. The Raiders gave up two 1st rounders for Carson, so Colt should be worth at least one, right? (in that alternate universe) Texas boy, young, come home to take another Texas team to the promised land.

Come on, Mr. Houston GM, you know you want to do it.

Yeah, you trade Colt, season is over, but it's over anyway, and that 4-12 record will almost assuredly get you one of the 3 QB's that everyone is salivating over. Plus 2 more 1st Rounders with the trade.

Naturally, this will never happen. Heckert will never even bother to make that call. But should he?
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby swerb » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:05 pm

They'd laugh. I'd take a 3rd after they get done laughing and counter.
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby Ziner » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:28 pm

I would guess he wont make the call because the trade deadline was weeks ago.
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:48 pm

Who gave hiko's password to SD?
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby hiko » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:06 pm

Ziner wrote:I would guess he wont make the call because the trade deadline was weeks ago.


That's not the point... thus the "hypothetical".

It wouldn't happen even if it could.
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:06 pm

hiko wrote:Houston has a SB quality team. Great run game, great WR, great Defense... and no QB. Schaub out for the season. Now Leinart might be gone.

They've got TJ Yates, a low-round rookie and Kellen Clemens, just plain bad.

They are in a desperate Oakland Raiders-type situation.

So... would you call and offer Colt McCoy for a 1st Round pick?

Sure, they should laugh at you, but do you call anyway? Colt's obviously proven much more than Yates, and has more potential than Clemens. The Raiders gave up two 1st rounders for Carson, so Colt should be worth at least one, right? (in that alternate universe) Texas boy, young, come home to take another Texas team to the promised land.

Come on, Mr. Houston GM, you know you want to do it.

Yeah, you trade Colt, season is over, but it's over anyway, and that 4-12 record will almost assuredly get you one of the 3 QB's that everyone is salivating over. Plus 2 more 1st Rounders with the trade.

Naturally, this will never happen. Heckert will never even bother to make that call. But should he?


SD:

We need Colt where he is , 5 more games under him and we might be able to pick third .

We don't need Thadeus Lewis coming off the bench and ruining the Tim Couch fallacy about this rube , like Holcomb ruined so many Timmie is the man wet dreams .

Hell we need our dog eared heroes , never mind somebody who might actually produce .

Besides if we cut him some Jackass would sign him off waivers , so we couldn't even get around thwe wink wink tradeline deadline being over and collect our 5th round draft pick under the table from Houston.

Egads man .....a #1 , even as Tebow proves even a halfback in disguise can beat a Colt.

Damn that Tebow any how .

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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby hiko » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:11 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Who gave hiko's password to SD?


Because I would take a 1st Round pick for Colt?

You wouldn't?

Who gave FMB's password to George Kokinis?

Hell, I'm probably overvaluing Colt with that post. He ain't worth a 1st and you wouldn't find anyone to give one up for him. But I'm guessing that he's far better than anything they've got at this point, and how they might even be envious of us for having a QB as "good" as McCoy.
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:13 am

Truth be told, I'd take a 1st for him too...who wouldn't

Hell, there's not a player on this team I WOULDN'T take a 1st for
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby hiko » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:02 am

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Truth be told, I'd take a 1st for him too...who wouldn't

Hell, there's not a player on this team I WOULDN'T take a 1st for


Joe Thomas?
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby Gradysmanldy » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:34 am

hiko wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Truth be told, I'd take a 1st for him too...who wouldn't

Hell, there's not a player on this team I WOULDN'T take a 1st for


Joe Thomas?


Joe Haden, Alex Mack, and probably Jackson. Hell, you can make the argument for Taylor and Sheard, too. Browns need to keep the few yoots that can play at a high level, not reset THOSE players. I know it was hyperbole but come on.
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:47 am

hiko wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Truth be told, I'd take a 1st for him too...who wouldn't

Hell, there's not a player on this team I WOULDN'T take a 1st for


Joe Thomas?


More than that. I'll assume we are talking about late first rounds picks. I'd say that I would not trade Thomas, Mack, Taylor, Sheard, Haden, and Hagg.

It's not that I necessarily think that those guys are all probowlers. But they are k own quantities and productive/very productive players who would not be easily replaced. Sure, there is the potential that draft picks we recieved for any of those players might turn out to be great. But I think there's even more potential that the players we would draft wouldn't be as good as the ones we gave up.

Look at Taylor. We got him in the first round. Hasn't that guy been every bit as good as wencould have reasonably hoped he would be when we drafted him? If we drafted him in the first, and he's lived up to our expectations so far, why would we trade him for another first?
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:02 am

Look at Taylor. We got him in the first round. Hasn't that guy been every bit as good as wencould have reasonably hoped he would be when we drafted him? If we drafted him in the first, and he's lived up to our expectations so far, why would we trade him for another first?

Because the title of the thread starts with "Completely impractical"... : )
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby mistero » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:40 am

Hagg???

What has he done?
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby Mavre » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:23 pm

Colt was not even close to being the reason we lost that game. c'mon man. Colt made a couple throws yesterday when he had time, stepping up in the pocket, and throwing an accurate pass.

Would I take a First round pick for him, of course, the grass is always greener....

We were great in the first half because we didnt drop the 7 yard first down pass, and had manageable 3rd downs.

Cinci became agressive on 2nd and longs in the second half and took advantage of our slow/weak/fat RT
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby swerb » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:48 pm

I think yesterday was a totally accurate representation of what Colt McCoy is. If Little doesn't do his best Rocky Belk impersonation, he ends up at like 22-34 for 200 yards. Efficient enough, just not good enough to beat a 9-10 win team on the road. The 4th quarter INT also defined McCoy ... when forced out of the pocket and in need to get rid of the ball and throw it away, he's just not athletic or strong enough to heave it out of bounds, and then it becomes a turnover that leads to a 4Q loss.

I think McCoy may be the best QB we've had here since 1999. I also think he's not a starter in this league. I think he's an above average backup. But for all the reasons he lasted till the 3rd round, you'd have to surround this kid with an insane amount of talent to compete for division and conference titles with him.

It's right there for everyone to see. Heckert and Holmgren aren't idiots.

Barring heroics in the four Baltimore/Pittsburgh games, I think it's a lock the Browns go after another QB this off-season. Either Matt Flynn from GB or one from the draft in the tier below Luck.
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby hiko » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:19 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
hiko wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Truth be told, I'd take a 1st for him too...who wouldn't

Hell, there's not a player on this team I WOULDN'T take a 1st for


Joe Thomas?


More than that. I'll assume we are talking about late first rounds picks. I'd say that I would not trade Thomas, Mack, Taylor, Sheard, Haden, and Hagg.


Did you throw Hagg in just to see if we were paying attention?
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Re: Completely Impracticle Hypothetical

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:23 pm

hiko wrote:
motherscratcher wrote:
hiko wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Truth be told, I'd take a 1st for him too...who wouldn't

Hell, there's not a player on this team I WOULDN'T take a 1st for


Joe Thomas?


More than that. I'll assume we are talking about late first rounds picks. I'd say that I would not trade Thomas, Mack, Taylor, Sheard, Haden, and Hagg.


Did you throw Hagg in just to see if we were paying attention?

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Re: Completely Impractical Hypothetical

Unread postby motherscratcher » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:12 am

Holy shit. They signed Delhomme. We have to get those assholes one the phone tout suite. This scenario may not be so far fetched.
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Re: Completely Impractical Hypothetical

Unread postby leadpipe » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:24 am

motherscratcher wrote:Holy shit. They signed Delhomme. We have to get those assholes one the phone tout suite. This scenario may not be so far fetched.


Can someone tell me when ESPN is going to replay the "Outside the Lines" episode which features the story of Houston's entire front office being dead for the first half of last season?
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Re: Completely Impractical Hypothetical

Unread postby Erie Warrior » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:26 pm

In keeping with the thread title, hire Jack Del Rio
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