Matt van: I guess I read 'vanilla' and am thinking having a speed guy off theedge isn't that wild and crazy - still vanilla to me but perhaps a lot less so than what we expected (feared) out of Jauron.
I think the key is the word "vanilla".
I think of vanilla as more base tendency read and react, not merely the absence of Rex Ryan going UFO ad crazy stuff. I generally think of a standard 4 - 3 as requiring a LDE that is in the 280 range that cn play run adn well as passs and a RDE that can do same but is a little more quick and light, maybe 270. The interior players can be 300.
But if you say your DE's top out around 250 -- and for comparison's sake Quinn weighed in at 265 for example -- you are talking a pair of Tampa 2 type speed ends. The only way they play the run is on the way to the QB. You are talking an attack squad. You also need rotation badly or these guys will be ground down. Personnel-wise, this is almost a 2 - 5 base D .
The only way to support these guys is with beheimoth DT's. They can be athletic and one gap guys, think Sapp, but they need to be large. We're talking 325 - 350 ... or more. Rubin fits that mold. Then you have..... Shaefer beer and pulses.
Even if / when UFA hits late, the Browns have about, uh, 3 / 4 players who MAY be able to do this, and 2 are unsigned in Mitchell and Roth . Rubin is one for DT, and then MAYBE that one Tweener kid whose name is escaping me and I'm too lazy, but he's alway hurt can put a hand on the ground again.
But points are these:
- This sort of DL personnel grouping is by it's nature anything but vanilla. They may not do all the Bellichickian X's and O's chicanery skullduggery BS and just get atcha, but they will attack. Thus the philosophy on D is changing just as it is on O to an intitaive based orientation rather than a react strategy based orientation. IOW, wed ont care what you do. Here is what we do. And here we come.
- We have absolutely a paucrity or personnell to play this sceme. Get ready for a boatload of front 7 defenders to be drafted. Gut says they will go Green or Jones at 1 an dthen load up on these guys, starting possibly with Aldon Smith. The 'zona kids ater also fit mold hand in glove.
- What you won't see are the 280 - 290 DE's many fans will know and love from the big 10, unless they project Heyward inside, which is posible.
What I haven't figured out is the DB situation, and if they play zone cover two, how any DB's we need. If I were betting with your money, I'd bet on a UFA band aid and no more than one late round nickle prospect.
Note - Highjack it with QB points and those posts will be deleted with extreme prejudice. Modding up old PF style on this one as if I'm RK when he used to be young and snotty and not old, dead and parental)