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by SoulDawg74 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:15 am
by jb » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:55 am
by peeker643 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:51 pm
by Triple-S » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:57 pm
peeker643 wrote:Why not just grab Casey Matthews in round four or five where all the scouts have him projected? That frees up the 2nd round pick to use on that Arkansas receiver who has hands like feet. Gotta have a 2nd round receiver that blows to continue the proud tradition.
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by gotribe31 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:59 pm
peeker643 wrote:Why not just grab Casey Matthews in round four or five where all the scouts have him projected? That frees up the 2nd round pick to use on that Arkansas receiver who has hands like feet. Gotta have a 2nd round receiver that blows to continue the proud tradition.
Oregon OLB Casey Matthews (39)
Matthews is not as athletically gifted as his older brother, Green Bay Packers LB Clay Matthews, but he has impressive instincts and is almost always in good position to make a play. Matthews also times blitzes well, but he does struggle to change directions quickly and does not always break down well as an open-field tackler. However, he makes up for his lack of range and natural athleticism with a nose for the ball and is the kind of player who can get on the back end of a roster as a late-round pick and contribute as a reserve on defense and on special teams.

by Fire Marshall Bill » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:13 pm
Triple-S wrote:peeker643 wrote:Why not just grab Casey Matthews in round four or five where all the scouts have him projected? That frees up the 2nd round pick to use on that Arkansas receiver who has hands like feet. Gotta have a 2nd round receiver that blows to continue the proud tradition.
lol!
Matthews is a third round guy at best, HOWEVER just would love to see the name Matthews in orange and brown w/ 57 running around, just seems right to me.
by Magic Brownies » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:56 pm
gotribe31 wrote:peeker643 wrote:Why not just grab Casey Matthews in round four or five where all the scouts have him projected? That frees up the 2nd round pick to use on that Arkansas receiver who has hands like feet. Gotta have a 2nd round receiver that blows to continue the proud tradition.
Exactly. Well, exactly other than the crappy WR in the 2nd round part. No reason to compound the decison to pass on Jr. by reaching for his less-talented brother.
For what its worth, here was the Scouts Inc. writeup on him (posted before the game last night). The 39 grade is out of 100, 90+ is considered 1st round talent:Oregon OLB Casey Matthews (39)
Matthews is not as athletically gifted as his older brother, Green Bay Packers LB Clay Matthews, but he has impressive instincts and is almost always in good position to make a play. Matthews also times blitzes well, but he does struggle to change directions quickly and does not always break down well as an open-field tackler. However, he makes up for his lack of range and natural athleticism with a nose for the ball and is the kind of player who can get on the back end of a roster as a late-round pick and contribute as a reserve on defense and on special teams.

by gotribe31 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:26 pm
Magic Brownies wrote:gotribe31 wrote:peeker643 wrote:Why not just grab Casey Matthews in round four or five where all the scouts have him projected? That frees up the 2nd round pick to use on that Arkansas receiver who has hands like feet. Gotta have a 2nd round receiver that blows to continue the proud tradition.
Exactly. Well, exactly other than the crappy WR in the 2nd round part. No reason to compound the decison to pass on Jr. by reaching for his less-talented brother.
For what its worth, here was the Scouts Inc. writeup on him (posted before the game last night). The 39 grade is out of 100, 90+ is considered 1st round talent:Oregon OLB Casey Matthews (39)
Matthews is not as athletically gifted as his older brother, Green Bay Packers LB Clay Matthews, but he has impressive instincts and is almost always in good position to make a play. Matthews also times blitzes well, but he does struggle to change directions quickly and does not always break down well as an open-field tackler. However, he makes up for his lack of range and natural athleticism with a nose for the ball and is the kind of player who can get on the back end of a roster as a late-round pick and contribute as a reserve on defense and on special teams.
Not sure what Clay Jr. was graded at coming out but I seem to remember multiple experts saying how Cushing and Mauluga were miles ahead of him. Now I think its pretty clear he was the best of the bunch

by yogi » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:40 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:08 pm
by Erie Warrior » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:36 pm
yogi wrote:#6. Marcell Dareus, DE/DT Alabama
#37 Jonathan Baldwin, WR Pitt
#70 Casey Matthews, ILB Oregon
#101 Brandon Boykin, CB Georgia


by gotribe31 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:38 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:What position will he play?

by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:09 pm
gotribe31 wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote:What position will he play?
Free safety. Cribbs will be at SS.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:19 pm
by peeker643 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:01 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Honestly, would we even be having this discussion if not for his last name?
Is he really a different player than Ross Homan? (no i'm not saying we draft Ross Homan)
by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:04 pm
peeker643 wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Honestly, would we even be having this discussion if not for his last name?
Is he really a different player than Ross Homan? (no i'm not saying we draft Ross Homan)
Reasonable comp with Height/weight/40 times. Matthews is listed as an inside LB though, 6th ranked.
Homan is rated 11 at OLB.Both projected to go at about 5th round.
by SoulDawg74 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:48 am
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:peeker643 wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Honestly, would we even be having this discussion if not for his last name?
Is he really a different player than Ross Homan? (no i'm not saying we draft Ross Homan)
Reasonable comp with Height/weight/40 times. Matthews is listed as an inside LB though, 6th ranked.
Homan is rated 11 at OLB.Both projected to go at about 5th round.
That I did not know.
But 5th round says alot. I'd be fine with Matthews there. Just not at 38
by jb » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:46 am
SoulDawg74 wrote:Think Brushki only bigger , smart playmaker at linebacker , playing for the Browns , how positively refreshing .
by Loo » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:16 pm
by SoulDawg74 » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:40 pm
Loo wrote:SD, once again, you're going for the "Flavor of the month."
After Blackmon's bowl game, you wanted to take him. Now, after Mathews' bowl game, you want to take him two rounds higher than he's projected and probably a full round ahead of where he will go (because his stock is rising).
by Fire Marshall Bill » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:29 pm
by motherscratcher » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:49 pm
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Maybe he could turn into this guy...
Urlacher wished to attend Texas Tech University but the school did not offer him an athletic scholarship.[7] The University of New Mexico and New Mexico State University were the only two Division I schools that offered Urlacher scholarships.[7] He enrolled into the University of New Mexico, and chose to major in Criminology.[8] The New Mexico Lobos' head coach, Dennis Franchione, converted Urlacher to linebacker, but often left him on the sidelines in favor of more experienced players.[7] The team finished with winning records during Urlacher's first two years and even made a trip to the 1997 Insight.com Bowl.[7] The team's success prompted Franchione to leave New Mexico in favor of Texas Christian University. His departure prompted the school to hire Rocky Long, a former head coach at UCLA.
Despite the change, Urlacher flourished under Long's tenure.[7] Urlacher not only received more playing time, but also played a more versatile role on both offense and defense. Long converted Urlacher into a "Lobo-Back",[9] a cross between a linebacker and free safety, and placed him in a 3-3-5 defense scheme.[10] He spent significant time training with the team's defensive coordinator, Bronco Mendenhall, who helped Urlacher refine his skills as a defensive back.[7] Long also used Urlacher as a return specialist and wide receiver throughout his final two years with the Lobos.[8] Despite Long's extensive changes to the team's roster, formations, and work ethic, the Lobos' performance declined. However, Urlacher became one of the team's most productive players during this time. He finished his career with 442 tackles, three interceptions, 11 sacks and 11 forced fumbles.[1] Outside of defense, he caught six touchdown passes, and returned five kicks for touchdowns.[1]
After the 1999 season, he was one of the finalists for the Jim Thorpe Award, and finished twelfth on Heisman Trophy ballot.
by SoulDawg74 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:51 am
jb wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:Think Brushki only bigger , smart playmaker at linebacker , playing for the Browns , how positively refreshing .
TB was converted defensive lineman and skinny kid matthews is bigger?
Pass me the hooka broham. Ganja not just for breakfast anymore.
And what is Scott Fujita? Chaun Thompson?
by gotribe31 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:28 am
SoulDawg74 wrote:jb wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:Think Brushki only bigger , smart playmaker at linebacker , playing for the Browns , how positively refreshing .
TB was converted defensive lineman and skinny kid matthews is bigger?
Pass me the hooka broham. Ganja not just for breakfast anymore.
And what is Scott Fujita? Chaun Thompson?
SD:
Dude think your mixing Up Vrabel converted from DE after aquiring him from Pissburgh
with Brushki ,
He's not much taller than Mumbles standing side by side and s35 with bricks in his back pocket , while Vrabel was 6'4-5" plus 260.
Mathwes is quicker than both with better straight line speed and has the full football bloodline, you can also play him at will in a 43 , he's that fast.
SoulDawg
SoulDawg

by SoulDawg74 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:26 am
gotribe31 wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:jb wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:Think Brushki only bigger , smart playmaker at linebacker , playing for the Browns , how positively refreshing .
TB was converted defensive lineman and skinny kid matthews is bigger?
Pass me the hooka broham. Ganja not just for breakfast anymore.
And what is Scott Fujita? Chaun Thompson?
SD:
Dude think your mixing Up Vrabel converted from DE after aquiring him from Pissburgh
with Brushki ,
He's not much taller than Mumbles standing side by side and s35 with bricks in his back pocket , while Vrabel was 6'4-5" plus 260.
Mathwes is quicker than both with better straight line speed and has the full football bloodline, you can also play him at will in a 43 , he's that fast.
SoulDawg
SoulDawg
How many Oregon games did you watch this year?
by gotribe31 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:32 am
SoulDawg74 wrote:gotribe31 wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:jb wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:Think Brushki only bigger , smart playmaker at linebacker , playing for the Browns , how positively refreshing .
TB was converted defensive lineman and skinny kid matthews is bigger?
Pass me the hooka broham. Ganja not just for breakfast anymore.
And what is Scott Fujita? Chaun Thompson?
SD:
Dude think your mixing Up Vrabel converted from DE after aquiring him from Pissburgh
with Brushki ,
He's not much taller than Mumbles standing side by side and s35 with bricks in his back pocket , while Vrabel was 6'4-5" plus 260.
Mathwes is quicker than both with better straight line speed and has the full football bloodline, you can also play him at will in a 43 , he's that fast.
SoulDawg
SoulDawg
How many Oregon games did you watch this year?
SD:
Nothing like seeing every tOSU game if thats what you mean , so if you want to pass yourself off as an Oregon expert have at it .
My post addresses playmaking players draft eligile and fits for the Browns ,
Linebacker DL receiver and QB are major weaknesses and one #1 pick ain't hardly gonna fix all that .
Saw the Stanford game where the Cardinal had em down 21-0 and they roared back and won , when it looked like Stanford had sanded their ass.
Saw the Cal game where they got beat save for a missed FG, and bits and pieces of a couple other blowouts where they scored touchdowns quicker than i can type this response to you .
Doesn't matter , in the biggest game the best players find a way to make plays , which includes Fairley , that freshman tailback for Auburn Newton and Mathews to name a few .
Fact you could probably give that Auburn DL a game ball collectively , and that one mean linebacker especially .
Oregon had a sneaky quick receiver in Mayo and another lomg target in Tuinei which
puts to bed the myth receiever must be picked in the first round
SoulDawg

by SoulDawg74 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:17 am
gotribe31 wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:gotribe31 wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:jb wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:Think Brushki only bigger , smart playmaker at linebacker , playing for the Browns , how positively refreshing .
TB was converted defensive lineman and skinny kid matthews is bigger?
Pass me the hooka broham. Ganja not just for breakfast anymore.
And what is Scott Fujita? Chaun Thompson?
SD:
Dude think your mixing Up Vrabel converted from DE after aquiring him from Pissburgh
with Brushki ,
He's not much taller than Mumbles standing side by side and s35 with bricks in his back pocket , while Vrabel was 6'4-5" plus 260.
Mathwes is quicker than both with better straight line speed and has the full football bloodline, you can also play him at will in a 43 , he's that fast.
SoulDawg
SoulDawg
How many Oregon games did you watch this year?
SD:
Nothing like seeing every tOSU game if thats what you mean , so if you want to pass yourself off as an Oregon expert have at it .
My post addresses playmaking players draft eligile and fits for the Browns ,
Linebacker DL receiver and QB are major weaknesses and one #1 pick ain't hardly gonna fix all that .
Saw the Stanford game where the Cardinal had em down 21-0 and they roared back and won , when it looked like Stanford had sanded their ass.
Saw the Cal game where they got beat save for a missed FG, and bits and pieces of a couple other blowouts where they scored touchdowns quicker than i can type this response to you .
Doesn't matter , in the biggest game the best players find a way to make plays , which includes Fairley , that freshman tailback for Auburn Newton and Mathews to name a few .
Fact you could probably give that Auburn DL a game ball collectively , and that one mean linebacker especially .
Oregon had a sneaky quick receiver in Mayo and another lomg target in Tuinei which
puts to bed the myth receiever must be picked in the first round
SoulDawg
I'm not passing myself off as an Oregon expert. That's the point. I'm also not the one saying that Mtwahers (or however you are choosing to spell his name this time) is bigger than Bruschi, faster than Vrabel, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.
No NFL scouts that I have seen are projecting him as a starter at weakside LB in a 4-3. I like to think I know a lot about football, but I also fully admit that NFL scouts who are paid to assess college football players for a living know more than I do. So if you find one who agrees with your assessment that you came up with while watching approximately 8 quarters of football, then by all means share with the group. But right now, your take is the outlier.
And if you think Cam Newton improved his draft stock with his national championship performance, you need to have your head examined.
by motherscratcher » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:59 am
SoulDawg74 wrote:gotribe31 wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:gotribe31 wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:jb wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:Think Brushki only bigger , smart playmaker at linebacker , playing for the Browns , how positively refreshing .
TB was converted defensive lineman and skinny kid matthews is bigger?
Pass me the hooka broham. Ganja not just for breakfast anymore.
And what is Scott Fujita? Chaun Thompson?
SD:
Dude think your mixing Up Vrabel converted from DE after aquiring him from Pissburgh
with Brushki ,
He's not much taller than Mumbles standing side by side and s35 with bricks in his back pocket , while Vrabel was 6'4-5" plus 260.
Mathwes is quicker than both with better straight line speed and has the full football bloodline, you can also play him at will in a 43 , he's that fast.
SoulDawg
SoulDawg
How many Oregon games did you watch this year?
SD:
Nothing like seeing every tOSU game if thats what you mean , so if you want to pass yourself off as an Oregon expert have at it .
My post addresses playmaking players draft eligile and fits for the Browns ,
Linebacker DL receiver and QB are major weaknesses and one #1 pick ain't hardly gonna fix all that .
Saw the Stanford game where the Cardinal had em down 21-0 and they roared back and won , when it looked like Stanford had sanded their ass.
Saw the Cal game where they got beat save for a missed FG, and bits and pieces of a couple other blowouts where they scored touchdowns quicker than i can type this response to you .
Doesn't matter , in the biggest game the best players find a way to make plays , which includes Fairley , that freshman tailback for Auburn Newton and Mathews to name a few .
Fact you could probably give that Auburn DL a game ball collectively , and that one mean linebacker especially .
Oregon had a sneaky quick receiver in Mayo and another lomg target in Tuinei which
puts to bed the myth receiever must be picked in the first round
SoulDawg
I'm not passing myself off as an Oregon expert. That's the point. I'm also not the one saying that Mtwahers (or however you are choosing to spell his name this time) is bigger than Bruschi, faster than Vrabel, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.
No NFL scouts that I have seen are projecting him as a starter at weakside LB in a 4-3. I like to think I know a lot about football, but I also fully admit that NFL scouts who are paid to assess college football players for a living know more than I do. So if you find one who agrees with your assessment that you came up with while watching approximately 8 quarters of football, then by all means share with the group. But right now, your take is the outlier.
And if you think Cam Newton improved his draft stock with his national championship performance, you need to have your head examined.
SD:
Every once in a while , I get one like you , think you got what it takes to go toe to toe with me .
Son you ain't nothin butt a dumb ass Mosquito that don't know its winter time .
8 quarters of football is a lifetime , considering it only took me 8 seconds yo bust you out as the punk you are.
I want Mathews he's a football playa ,
I want Newton because he's a dynamic football playa ,
Your a punk who doesn't know what that means .
You fuckin ignorant BEEEYatch.
SoulDawg
by SoulDawg74 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:38 pm
by Fire Marshall Bill » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:19 pm
Enough to know that he was passed over in a backlash as a Black QB at the time of the Micheal Vick dog killing incident
by SoulDawg74 » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:09 pm
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Enough to know that he was passed over in a backlash as a Black QB at the time of the Micheal Vick dog killing incident
bullfuckingshit
Clark sucked. Period.....and you know nothing about PSU
Clark couldn't throw a spiral and couldn't run like Robinson.
Absolute take fail
by SoulDawg74 » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:19 pm
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Enough to know that he was passed over in a backlash as a Black QB at the time of the Micheal Vick dog killing incident
bullfuckingshit
Clark sucked. Period.....and you know nothing about PSU
Clark couldn't throw a spiral and couldn't run like Robinson.
Absolute take fail
by gotribe31 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:59 pm
SoulDawg74 wrote:gotribe31 wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:gotribe31 wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:jb wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:Think Brushki only bigger , smart playmaker at linebacker , playing for the Browns , how positively refreshing .
TB was converted defensive lineman and skinny kid matthews is bigger?
Pass me the hooka broham. Ganja not just for breakfast anymore.
And what is Scott Fujita? Chaun Thompson?
SD:
Dude think your mixing Up Vrabel converted from DE after aquiring him from Pissburgh
with Brushki ,
He's not much taller than Mumbles standing side by side and s35 with bricks in his back pocket , while Vrabel was 6'4-5" plus 260.
Mathwes is quicker than both with better straight line speed and has the full football bloodline, you can also play him at will in a 43 , he's that fast.
SoulDawg
SoulDawg
How many Oregon games did you watch this year?
SD:
Nothing like seeing every tOSU game if thats what you mean , so if you want to pass yourself off as an Oregon expert have at it .
My post addresses playmaking players draft eligile and fits for the Browns ,
Linebacker DL receiver and QB are major weaknesses and one #1 pick ain't hardly gonna fix all that .
Saw the Stanford game where the Cardinal had em down 21-0 and they roared back and won , when it looked like Stanford had sanded their ass.
Saw the Cal game where they got beat save for a missed FG, and bits and pieces of a couple other blowouts where they scored touchdowns quicker than i can type this response to you .
Doesn't matter , in the biggest game the best players find a way to make plays , which includes Fairley , that freshman tailback for Auburn Newton and Mathews to name a few .
Fact you could probably give that Auburn DL a game ball collectively , and that one mean linebacker especially .
Oregon had a sneaky quick receiver in Mayo and another lomg target in Tuinei which
puts to bed the myth receiever must be picked in the first round
SoulDawg
I'm not passing myself off as an Oregon expert. That's the point. I'm also not the one saying that Mtwahers (or however you are choosing to spell his name this time) is bigger than Bruschi, faster than Vrabel, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.
No NFL scouts that I have seen are projecting him as a starter at weakside LB in a 4-3. I like to think I know a lot about football, but I also fully admit that NFL scouts who are paid to assess college football players for a living know more than I do. So if you find one who agrees with your assessment that you came up with while watching approximately 8 quarters of football, then by all means share with the group. But right now, your take is the outlier.
And if you think Cam Newton improved his draft stock with his national championship performance, you need to have your head examined.
SD:
Every once in a while , I get one like you , think you got what it takes to go toe to toe with me .
Son you ain't nothin butt a dumb ass Mosquito that don't know its winter time .
8 quarters of football is a lifetime , considering it only took me 8 seconds yo bust you out as the punk you are.
I want Mathews he's a football playa ,
I want Newton because he's a dynamic football playa ,
Your a punk who doesn't know what that means .
You fuckin ignorant BEEEYatch.
SoulDawg

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