Moderators: peeker643, jb, swerb, pup
by jb » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:04 pm
by pup » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:10 pm
by Dozen » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:24 pm
by jb » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:28 pm
Pup wrote:IF the Browns can add 2 to their OL in FA and are confident in Tucker and Fraley coming back, then Peterson is the chioice. If they don't, then I am sorry, but I still say Joe Thomas.
by pup » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:34 pm
A Pete is a once/twice in a decade talent at an impact position.
by jb » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:56 pm
Pup wrote:A Pete is a once/twice in a decade talent at an impact position. I don't think that is true in this day and age, at that position. Running backs grow on trees. I was a huge AP joneser all year, but the o-line is a mess. You cannot begin to fix this team until there is a competent o-line in place. You have no way to judge the other players without one.This does not mean I will be unhappy with A-Pete, in fact, if we do the right things before the draft I would be very happy.
by furls » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:17 am
by pup » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:49 am
by Dozen » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:14 am
by pup » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:17 am
by Dozen » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:20 am
by pup » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:26 am
by Dozen » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:29 am
by furls » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:07 pm
by jb » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:48 pm
Furls wrote:A Pete is a once/twice in a decade talent at an impact position. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He is not Reggie Bush, who is a once a decade RB. A-Pete is what he is, a once/twice a DRAFT running back. Productive RBs grow on trees and can frequently be found in the 2-4th round.
by furls » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:10 pm
I'm at a loss to come up with a yearly list of 6'2" 220 pound super-productive RB's from major conferences who run 4 . 3 's entering the draft.
These guys, none of them, have the complete package that A Pete brings.
Reggie is special at what he does, but he can not carry a team. A Pete did and should do so at the next level.
I don't think JT is at all dif from The Brick, or even - shudder - Gallery.
Damn good prospect to be sure, but a guy who is gettable on any given year you pick in the top 10, which sadly I'll shink we're doomed to be for one more season.
by jb » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:19 pm
Furls wrote:First of all, being 6'2" is actually a bit of a detriment for a RB as taller running backs (Peterson included) have a tendency to run to "upright" and their pad level as a result is to high.I am not saying that AP is not good, but frankly guys who are 217 and run 4.40 forties (his actual time) are not necessarily that rare. Thomas has 10X better feet than Gallery and 5X better feet than the Brick. The Brick did have a pretty successful rookie season, I would be happy to give up this year's 3rd to have him play LT in Cleveland.
by furls » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:47 am
I still think you are minimalizing how good AP is and how rare 220 & 4.38 is. You dismiss 10 - 15 pounds, the dif between 4.38 and 4.45 and his vision and toughness in quarter 4 too cavalierly to me, but different strokes, bro.
I still think you are minimalizing how good AP is and how rare 220 & 4.38 is. You dismiss 10 - 15 pounds
6'2" allows you to stride when you hit open field. It is partially why AP gets so many long gainers. Style is just style. Being a tall strider didn't hurt Orenthal, the Dick, and it won't hurt AP .
I won't kill myself if we draft Thomas at all.
by Lebowski » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:25 pm
by HoodooMan » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:19 pm
by Guest » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:25 pm
by furls » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:34 pm
I haven't seen a RB run with that kind of exceptional balance since Barry Sanders.
by HoodooMan » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:35 pm
by HoodooMan » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:39 pm
by consigliere » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:40 pm
HoodooMan wrote:Let's just hope the Raiduhs don't pass on JMR and tempt Phil to go in another direction.
Raiders Sour On Russell, Favoring Johnson? 5th March, 2007 - 5:09 pm Sporting News - The Raiders' brass returned from the NFL Scouting Combine less convinced that Louisiana State QB JaMarcus Russell is their man for the top pick and with more questions than before after taking a long look at him during the process. Publicly, the Raiders said nothing about Russell or any of the other players who attended the Combine. Privately, several Raider officials questioned Russell's work ethic, said they are concerned about his weight as a long-term issue, and cautioned against making Russell a cinch as the top pick. It now appears just as likely that the Raiders will target Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson in light of his posting a 4.31-second 40-yard dash, as well as a very impressive interview.
Return to Cleveland Browns & The NFL
Users browsing this forum: gbot and 2 guests