Browns Win Coin Flip, Pick 3rd

[swerb]

Tomorrow morning, 7:45 AM.

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=337873

Pre game show starts at 5:30 AM on ESPN2.

[BadBecks]

Who's up for some tailgating for this thing tomorrow morning? The flip is at 7:45 am so I'm thing 6-ish. West Side preferred or Muni Lot preferred.

[jb]

Tomorrow morning, 7:45 AM.

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=337873

Pre game show starts at 5:30 AM on ESPN2.

How do we anti-hex this bastard, Rich?

All wear Stiller sweatshirts tomorrow? Eat kilbassa and onions for breakfast?

Get arrested and yell "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? I'M WITH THE BENGALS!"

Steal something and wear purple?

Wear the same sox as that day the ping-pong balls saved the Cavs' franchise?

[pup]

Wear the same sox as that day the ping-pong balls saved the Cavs' franchise?

Sorry, those are staying in their frame!

[wmurphyhh]

So what was the result ?

[swerb]

WE WIN ... Brownies pick third. Boo yah.

[wmurphyhh]

OK... a slight victory.
So let the speculation begin.

I've got one for you. How much better is Calvin Johnson than Ted Ginn ?
The mocks have Minnesota taking Ginn at 7.
TB, AZ, and the Skins are all set at RB.
If Detroit takes Thomas, let's trade down to 7. The Vikings jump ahead of the Bucs and draft Johnson.
TB takes Quinn.
We still end up with AP and extra pick.
Thoughts ?

[Guest]

Calvin Johnson is 1,000 times better than Ginn
Ginn shouldn't even be in the same conversation

[wmurphyhh]

Calvin Johnson is 1,000 times better than Ginn
Ginn shouldn't even be in the same conversation

That's what I thought, Spoon. So you think Minnesota would trade up to get in front on Chucky and the Bucs ?

[Guest]

I would sure as hell hope so because I like your scenario
Calvin Johnson is THE BEST player in the draft, hands down.

[consigliere]

Winning the fip is awesome. That #3 pick now has a ton of value. Had Tampa won, they probably would have been deadset on taking Calvin Johnson. Now, with us owning the pick, there is the potential that someone below us in the Top 10 will want to trade up to our spot to get Johnson, or whoever is there they covet. Nice.

[yogi]

Maybe we've hit the bottom with the LeCharles news and this coin is a sign of our luck changing.

Since the difference between 3rd pick and 4th is a mid 2nd round pick, this is very nice news.

Now the 1st part of my trade scenario has fallen into place.

Now maybe Minny parts with its 2nd rounder for Calvin and we get pick #7 and two 2nd rounders!

We pick AP or Brady at #7 and address the lines with he two 2nd rounders.

[swerb]

The Browns appear to be in about as good of a "trade down spot" as you can be.

All three of these teams have WR as one of their top needs, if not THE top need ...

#7 Minnesota Vikings
#10 Atlanta Falcons
#11 San Francisco 49ers

Even the Rams at #13 could be a sleeper.

Man, I'd love to get down to #7 and add another 2nd round pick. There's a chance Thomas or Peterson would slip there. If not, take Alan Branch or the beast DL from Louisville.

[yogi]

This baby could have some real legs....

And w/o getting greedy, instead of just a 2nd round Viking pick, we could also get their 3rd rounder or a 2nd rounder next year.

How about Smoot?

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=63#S=63&F=1554&T=151379

[Dozen]

Id pass on the love boat captain, The one thing other teams need to consider is Savage's draft history. He will take the BPA no matter what. I dont think WR was a huge need but he drafted Edwards. Teams should be more willing to try and trade up, cuzz Savage has created a pattern for himself. If another team wants somebody, they will be more willing to trade with us knowing his draft history.

[swerb]

Another good possibility brought up by GBN this morning ...

Atlanta is at #10, and desperately wants/needs the hometown boy Calvin Johnson from GT. The Falcons have all their 1st day picks and two in the fourth round. Browns could still get Levi Jones from PSU, who is impressing the hell out of peeps at the combines, at #10.

Michael Bush/Tony Hunt in the 2nd. OL and DL depth from there on out, with an extra pick in hand.

Call me naive, I got a good feeling Phil comes out of this draft real strong this year.

[furls]

I have a feeling that they are going to go with the old, draft AP and hope he can do enough to save your (and your HC's) job.

Swerb, the only way this team is respectable in the immediate future (next year or two) is by doing exactly what you are suggesting. If they draft AP, they are just going to end up over paying ($$) for a RB that I am not sure will be much better than the round two talent. AP is good, but I am not sure that he is that much better than the second round talent.

[swerb]

I have a feeling that they are going to go with the old, draft AP and hope he can do enough to save your (and your HC's) job.

Swerb, the only way this team is respectable in the immediate future (next year or two) is by doing exactly what you are suggesting. If they draft AP, they are just going to end up over paying ($$) for a RB that I am not sure will be much better than the round two talent. AP is good, but I am not sure that he is that much better than the second round talent.

I'm not going to be pissed if they take AP. But his injury history, coupled with this OLine, and this towns luck scares the living shit out of me.

The more and more I read on Levi Jones, I may like this kid even more than Joe Thomas. My strong preference at this point is a trade down at all costs, even if you don't get draft pick value chart value.

Man, if there's any way you can deal down, and pick up an extra 2nd rounder ... and can go like this on day one:

OT Levi Jones, PSU
OG Ben Grubbs, Aub
RB Tony Hunt, PSU
DE Victor Abriahimi, ND

Come back on day 2, go BPA in the trenches again with that pick at the top of the 4th, and then CB, BPA in rds 5 and 6.

[Dozen]

I'm not going to be pissed if they take AP. But his injury history, coupled with this OLine, and this towns luck scares the living shit out of me.

He's never had anykind of surgery, just sprains and a broken collarbone, so its just being BLOWN UP cuzz of the draft. So it doesnt concern me personally.

The more and more I read on Levi Jones, I may like this kid even more than Joe Thomas. My strong preference at this point is a trade down at all costs, even if you don't get draft pick value chart value.

I like Levi as well, but you have to get value to trade down. Savage will get crushed if he pulls a Butch.

Im gonna be a homer, I want AP

[swerb]

Peterson's had three or four different injuries over the last five years, including last years collarbone dealio ... which is frightening.

Certain guys man, Larry Hughes being one of them, their body types are just more prone to injury.

AP .... much like Eddie George IMO, big back, upright running style ... whose guys - they take a beating. 6'1 guys that run up straight, run into people, get those knees and legs churning. Through my 25 years of watching football, those backs have a hard time staying on the field.

Even behind good lines.