bw wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:bw wrote:TitoFrancona wrote:I think it's pretty unlikely they draft Crabtree for a number of reasons. IMO, Macklin will end up being the better pro of the 2. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes before Crabtree.
But the Browns could use an OT and Monroe may be there.
Curry of course should be #1 on their board.
Curry doesn't rush the QB. And that's what we need. I get a lot of my info from NFLN but I hear that if Curry don't go #1 he could conceivably fall out of the top ten altogether. I believe it. He's a good player, a very good player. I thought he might translate to 4-3 MLB but everybody's calling for him to play SSLB in a 4-3 set. In a 3-4, his best postion would be ILB. Not a value position. At all.
I also heard that Crabtree pissed the Browns brain trust off for one reason or another. Could be BS, don't know.
The problem with a 3-4 WSOLB is that if you miss, if he can't translate his College DE skills to the NFL in a 3-4 set -- You're screwed. There's no where else to play him. You miss on an OLT you can move to ORT or even inside to Guard. You miss on #1 WR, you can put in the slot or on the weakside. Or even use him in the return game.
I picked BJ Raji for the Browns. I been hearing noises about Tyson Jackson from LSU for the Browns. We need to, 1) Stop the run and, 2) Pressure the QB. A WSOLB in a 3-4 can't do that by himself. All the opposing O-Line has to do is chip him or double team him. An on-rushing D-Lineman is like a runaway train. It scares the beJesus out of QBs, O-Lines, coaches and everybody else. It disrupts the passing game and it slows the run game by forcing the RB to find a different gap to run to.
I don't know that much about Tyson Jackson. Is he the real deal? Does he grade out as a top five pick? I think Curry will be there. I also think we should pass on him. Great player, not a valuable position.
SD:
bw , I'd take Tyson over Curry , not impressed that he's all that just good.
TJ has the specs of Seymor and could have a similar impact playing alongside Rodgers in a Rotation with the Smiths and Corey Williams .
See BJ Radji as a duplicate and we have three NT's body types on the roster.
See Tyson Jackson as the true monster outside Seymor type DE big enough to play inside on 43 sets and strong enough to hold the point on the run and bring outside oressure collapsing the pocket allowing our OLB to make plays.
Prefer Sanchez falls to us at 5 to see the fireworks .
But I'd take Tyson Jackson first Alabama Smith second
and Mualuaga third at the five spot if i have
my druthers .
I don't believe Mualuga has to come off the field in 3rd down sets if you scheme him right and use him as a designated pass rusher flopping him around .
Kid can draw a bead and knock somebodies dick out at the POA and thats the key ingredient we don't have anywhere on this "D"
SoulDawg
I'm willing to bet a beer that Maualuga don't even get drafted in the top half of the first round. I think he goes to Ballmer or maybe NE at best.
From what I've read about TJ, he could be another Gerard Warren. Great potential but doesn't always show up. Five or six sacks this year on a LSU D-Line that was loaded with talent? Not sold.
This is a really tough draft. We should trade down but nobody wants the pick.
I said years ago on that 'other' forum that drafting high was becoming more of a curse than a blessing. And it's true. I just don't see that much difference between the top five picks and the rest of the first round. Sure, there's some difference but not like it used to be in the old days. Are these guys getting better? So good that there's not enough difference in them to see? Or is this just a lousy draft?
I wonder if Shaun Rogers would be pissed if he had to move out to the Weak Side? If BJ Raji would step on his toes?
SD:
You've got the wrong report on Tyson, dude gives 100%
on every play and often has expended himself by the fourth quarter.
Rumor has it KC is looking at him as the third pick in the draft
Perfect rotation player, who will come in and tear it up
on every snap and projects as the perfect prototype 34 DE.
In a 43 he's slow for a DE , but in the 34 where run support is key he's a stud.
Has long arms and a true Pro sized body at just under 6'6" and three hundred pounds , would like to see him get stronger as he did only 20 reps at the combine , but that can be coached , you can't coach his size which is the best in the draft . and you can build his stamina if you can't slow him down to pace himself.
Perfect rotational player where you want em going full tilt until relieved.
Project Ray as a Charger if we can't trade down and pick him up .
Still would like to see Sanchez fall in our laps and take offers , don't really like a player in this draft at the five spot money wise except a QB.
SoulDawg
