Chris wrote:JB wrote:Chris wrote:ProgRocker wrote:Pup wrote:Anyone take this bet...Pro Bowl appearances for Winslow versus any Browns TE for the rest of Kellen's career?
I'll take that bet. What's in it?
Seriously, even if he's right, who cares? Tight ends aren't exactly the most important ingredients to a Superbowl caliber team. I'd take a Pro Bowl linebacker, receiver, quarterback, nose tackl, left tackle, right tackle (any O lineman in fact) and possibly other positions way , way before I took a pro bowl TE.
Ever watch Jay Novachek?
BQ as QB? His style? His system to succeed?
And creating hole just to fill them makes any sense how?
Jesus. And here I thought you could think. Do you understand football?
This is politcal. 100 % .
BEST BE RIGHT.
Hold your horses Charlie, don't fall off the high horse quite yet.
I agree it is partly political. They are getting rid of a potential drama llama, and a guy who apparently is STILL crowing for a new, bigger contract. I like Winslow, but he is (and I hate this) what he is.
We don't need him, he doesn't fit in with what Mangini is building, so he is gone for draft picks that will be used to get players who 1) do fit in with what he is building and 2) don't have knees that are going to collapse sometime within the next year and 3) will actually see the field, unlike Winslow who is always hurt.
And seriously, I said TE isn't exactly the most important ingredient to a Superbowl caliber club. So you list me a great TE who won a Superbowl? Please tell me what the HELL that has to do with anything.
And here, I thought you could think.
I keep going back to Dallas.
What was Troy like with Novachek? Then without? The Super Bowl Nazi showed up and said, "Troy, no super bowl for you!".
Same as what Jonston meant to Smith.
Dave Casper & Ken Stabler. 1977. That's one.
90's Cowboys dynasty.
The 49ers always had superb TE's, and that is a necesary requirement for the WCO.
Mark Bavaro was the best in ' 86 IMO .
Jacuzzi HS Cheerleading creep was a great TE for GB for a while.
Shannon Sharpe won three titles as the best TE in the NFL.
Dallas Clark does more for Manning than you think.
A TE is not a quaterback, a RB, or a pass rusher. He's not even a lock down corner. But having a TE who can get open and catch is critical to most quartebacks success in the way a killer FB is for an I back .
To dimisish that contributeion when you are allegedly grooming Quinn just to feel better about a mashugahuh move continues to make my eyes bleed.